--- Day changed Thu Nov 03 2016 00:40 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdopouejucqqtdta] has joined #lightning-dev 00:51 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 02:46 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.187] has joined #lightning-dev 02:46 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.187] has quit [Client Quit] 03:12 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has joined #lightning-dev 04:33 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.187] has joined #lightning-dev 05:16 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 05:19 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:09 -!- jtimon [~quassel@186.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 08:23 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has joined #lightning-dev 08:39 < Eliel> stevenroose: As far as I've understood it, the recipient picks a random string, which is used to authorize the transfer once it's done. If it's not used within a timeout, the transfer gets canceled. So, it seems to me that as long as every path uses that same authorization string, they will confirm in a basically atomic fashion. 08:41 < Eliel> although, the gotcha here is that the recipient should never reveal the authorization string unless they have verified that they have received the whole amount they want. Because the sender knowing the authorization string also basically works as proof of payment when combined with the signed payment request. 09:33 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-22-123-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:54 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@71-84-219-33.dhcp.ccmn.ca.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 09:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.187] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 10:14 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.187] has joined #lightning-dev 10:16 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.187] has quit [Client Quit] 10:41 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 10:51 -!- jtimon [~quassel@186.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:46 < roasbeef> stevenroose: in that scenario you can simply get additional payment hashes from the reciever. Alternatively, a node could attempt to fragment the payment at the network level, although that route requires a bit more synchronization to ensure the payments are all pulled through simulatenously. Then there's also link layer fragmentation which doesn't quite require the same synchronization as network level fragmentation 11:48 -!- jtimon [~quassel@186.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 12:43 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has joined #lightning-dev 13:24 < TD-Linux> am I missing anything re https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/61 13:47 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@71-84-219-33.dhcp.ccmn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:11 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:12 < stevenroose> oh, hi roasbeef, big fan! 16:12 < stevenroose> however I didn't fully understand the answer 16:13 < stevenroose> mind to elaborate slightly? 16:24 -!- Anduck [~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:24 -!- Anduck [~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has joined #lightning-dev 16:24 -!- Eliel [~jojkaart@104-250-47-212.rev.cloud.scaleway.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:25 -!- Eliel [~jojkaart@104-250-47-212.rev.cloud.scaleway.com] has joined #lightning-dev 17:04 < gwillen> TD-Linux: hm, nothing obvious to me 17:05 < TD-Linux> gwillen, it's the main issue with lightning clicker at the moment. I guess to delete a channel you'd need a way to move funds out 17:06 * gwillen nods 17:06 < gwillen> do you know why it's doing a unilateral rather than a clean close? 17:06 < gwillen> I wonder if that might have something to do with it 17:09 < TD-Linux> not sure, though there was plenty of stuff going wrong at the time 17:10 < TD-Linux> one node might not have been online at the time of the close (not sure what the leeway is in the current implementation) 17:48 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell created leaks at 48da22a (+0 new commits): https://git.io/vXCaA 17:48 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:49 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 17:59 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@71-84-219-33.dhcp.ccmn.ca.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 18:13 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell pushed 21 new commits to leaks: https://git.io/vXCw5 18:13 -githubby:#lightning-dev- lightning/leaks fa402aa Rusty Russell: routing: fix hash of pubkeys.... 18:13 -githubby:#lightning-dev- lightning/leaks c1d6df5 Rusty Russell: feechange: fix db updates.... 18:13 -githubby:#lightning-dev- lightning/leaks a4ee683 Rusty Russell: tal_tmpctx: clear marker for temporary contexts.... 18:14 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell opened pull request #65: Leak fixes (master...leaks) https://git.io/vXCwN 18:15 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 18:43 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@94.242.209.214] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:17 -!- murch [~murch@p4FE3A3AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lightning-dev 19:17 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-salhegiybjoqgylo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:18 -!- murch [~murch@p4FE3A3AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdopouejucqqtdta] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:25 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell created pvs-studio at 48da22a (+0 new commits): https://git.io/vXCPo 19:26 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell merged master into pvs-studio: https://git.io/vXtyE 19:27 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell pushed 4 new commits to pvs-studio: https://git.io/vXCP9 19:27 -githubby:#lightning-dev- lightning/pvs-studio 5349d2a Rusty Russell: routing: fix hash of pubkeys.... 19:27 -githubby:#lightning-dev- lightning/pvs-studio 024e6a5 Rusty Russell: feechange: fix db updates.... 19:27 -githubby:#lightning-dev- lightning/pvs-studio feecaba Rusty Russell: sphinx: fix marshalling/unmarshalling... 19:28 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell opened pull request #66: Pvs studio: various fixes found by running trial version (master...pvs-studio) https://git.io/vXCP5 19:40 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell deleted state at a1a15b8: https://git.io/vXCXi 19:40 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell deleted daemon at 6faa7aa: https://git.io/vXCX1 19:40 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell deleted test-protocol at a2ced6c: https://git.io/vXCXS 19:40 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell deleted routing at 49ebed7: https://git.io/vXCXQ 19:40 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell deleted fixmes at 6b79fd9: https://git.io/vXCXd 19:41 -!- jtimon [~quassel@186.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:49 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] rustyrussell created closing-unacked-htlcs-race-29 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vXCyH 20:49 -githubby:#lightning-dev- lightning/closing-unacked-htlcs-race-29 2c5d795 Rusty Russell: peer: hoist do_commit and have it return false if it failed.... 20:58 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:690f:de64:957d:87df] has quit [Quit: .] 20:59 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:b074:f626:8684:3aed] has joined #lightning-dev 21:51 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-idigxjbhlxwczzpd] has joined #lightning-dev 22:27 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@71-84-219-33.dhcp.ccmn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:13 -!- wasi [~wasi@183.12.202.62.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qyskawhqdybigtqr] has joined #lightning-dev