--- Day changed Tue Dec 13 2016 00:17 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 00:20 -!- lclc__ [~lclc__@pub212004089088.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #lightning-dev 01:32 -!- ryanofsky_ [~russ@static-100-38-11-146.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:33 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.183] has joined #lightning-dev 01:35 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.183] has quit [Client Quit] 01:37 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] sstone closed pull request #55: BOLT 7: fix 21-byte limit typo, allow alias to use all characters. 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(master...multiple-node-addresses) https://git.io/v11e6 12:37 -!- jtimon [~quassel@77.224.94.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37 -!- jtimon [~quassel@77.224.94.35] has joined #lightning-dev 12:44 -!- lclc__ [~lclc__@pub082136074188.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #lightning-dev 12:53 < roasbeef> so i'm a bit less convinced about the spec's state machine after starting to change mine a bit to conform to it. it seems that it doesn't converge as quickly and will require extraneous updates just to get states to a synced state in some situations. by not including the log-index in the signatures, state updates are more ambiguous 12:54 < roasbeef> for example: Alice: Add Add, Bob: Add Sig 12:54 < roasbeef> when Alice get's that sig, how does she know whether her changes are included in that sig? 12:54 < roasbeef> then if you continue forward, you end up with Bob having a comitment with his Addition and Alice having the same, while Alice's changes are still in limbo until she initiates a new state transition 12:55 < roasbeef> while if using index-with-sig, then when ALice recives that sig she knows exaclt what's included and Bob the same on recpipt of alice's sig, they can avoid the extra update to get back in sync, which is more space efficient 12:55 < roasbeef> rusty ^ 12:55 * roasbeef steps out for lunch 13:28 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] cdecker closed pull request #101: ci: Replacing Travis-CI with Gitlab-CI (master...gitlab-ci) https://git.io/v1olg 13:46 -!- rhett [~rhett@c-73-223-86-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:05 -!- lclc__ [~lclc__@pub082136074188.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:35 -!- HostFat [~HostFat@host44-253-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lightning-dev 14:35 -!- HostFat [~HostFat@host44-253-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35 -!- HostFat [~HostFat@host44-253-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lightning-dev 14:47 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30 -!- JackH [~laptop@79-73-185-145.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15 -!- jtimon [~quassel@77.224.94.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18 -!- wasi [~wasi@gateway/tor-sasl/wasi] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:19 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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