--- Day changed Thu Feb 16 2017 00:02 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 00:10 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em119-72-195-228.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 00:36 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em119-72-195-228.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 00:47 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has joined #lightning-dev 01:01 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em119-72-195-228.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 01:17 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:52 -!- JackH [~laptop@79-73-188-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #lightning-dev 02:11 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 02:21 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@fp7cdbc647.tkyc515.ap.nuro.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 02:30 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] pm47 closed pull request #111: BOLT 2: document requirements of max-htlc-value-in-flight-msat (master...document-max-htlc-value-in-flight-msat) https://git.io/vDXRK 02:33 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@fp7cdbc647.tkyc515.ap.nuro.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@fp7cdbc647.tkyc515.ap.nuro.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 02:43 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] pm47 opened pull request #113: BOLT 9: Make it clear that 'channel_public' apply to all channels (master...channels_public) https://git.io/vDyOb 02:58 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@fp7cdbc647.tkyc515.ap.nuro.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04 -!- lclc [~lclc@unaffiliated/lclc] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:18 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 03:34 -!- lclc [~lclc@unaffiliated/lclc] has joined #lightning-dev 03:34 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 03:49 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] pm47 opened pull request #114: BOLT 9: Added a `retransmit-channelid` feature bit (master...retransmit_channelid) https://git.io/vDyCa 04:25 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:44 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 04:55 < cdecker> Hate to bring it up again, but DMCs trivially allow for multi-party channels since there is no asymmetry in the state that each party holds, all you do is increase the multisig size on the shared accounts 05:29 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:34 -!- gonzoucab [~gonzoucab@190.153.6.86] has quit [Quit: gonzoucab] 05:50 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@unaffiliated/bluematt] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:52 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@unaffiliated/bluematt] has joined #lightning-dev 06:04 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mcwlvhhhzhjdxugw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Thu Feb 16 06:20:55 2017 --- Log opened Thu Feb 16 06:21:08 2017 06:21 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] has joined #lightning-dev 06:21 -!- Irssi: #lightning-dev: Total of 68 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 68 normal] 06:23 -!- jtimon [~quassel@245.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 06:32 -!- Irssi: Join to #lightning-dev was synced in 696 secs 06:46 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 07:30 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has joined #lightning-dev 07:33 -!- gonzoucab [~gonzoucab@186-95-153-173.genericrev.cantv.net] has joined #lightning-dev 07:52 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 08:48 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vpkuyqoquabnzqlw] has joined #lightning-dev 09:06 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-25-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:06 -!- pm [~pm@11.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has joined #lightning-dev 09:08 < pm> cdecker: hey christian you here? 09:12 < cdecker> Present :-) 09:15 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:16 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has joined #lightning-dev 09:17 < pm> are you familiar with the commitment state machine? 09:17 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has quit [Client Quit] 09:18 < cdecker> Not too much, but it should be pretty small 09:19 < cdecker> Anything specific? 09:19 < pm> yes I am looking at the retransmission: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/02-peer-protocol.md#message-retransmission 09:19 < pm> in the acknowledgments bullet points 09:20 < pm> I think "revoke_and_ack: acknowledged by shutdown, update_ messages, or commitment_signed" is wrong 09:21 < pm> as per my understanding revoke_and_ack can be acknowledged only by shutdown or commitment_signed 09:21 < pm> WDYT? 09:21 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-22-123-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:24 < cdecker> Doesn't an update implicitly ack it? 09:25 < cdecker> Our update is based upon a certain state, and depending on whether that state includes the revoked message or not we can infer whether the revoke was received 09:27 < pm> I don't think so, you can send a CommitSig and then additional updates (they won't be included in the commitsig/revokeandack) 09:28 < pm> what you can't to is send a second CommitSig without having received the RevokeaAndAck 09:48 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has joined #lightning-dev 09:58 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:01 -!- pm [~pm@11.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:35 < cdecker> Hm, I obviously need to do some light reading :-) 10:43 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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