--- Day changed Thu Sep 07 2017 00:11 -!- jtimon [~quassel@199.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:18 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 01:31 -!- afk11 [~afk11@gateway/tor-sasl/afk11] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32 -!- afk11 [~afk11@gateway/tor-sasl/afk11] has joined #lightning-dev 01:39 -!- kermie [57d5161c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.213.22.28] has joined #lightning-dev 01:40 < kermie> cdecker: this was on regtest. I setup the network using the script we discussed, then did one payment and then closed the node1->node2 connection after 10 seconds 01:44 < kermie> I decided to generate a few more blocks in between the payment step and closing of the channel and it seems to give different error messages now 01:51 < kermie> This is the log-output for closing a channel now: https://paste.ee/p/LZz6Y 01:51 < kermie> This is the log-output for generating more blocks after closing that channel: https://paste.ee/p/RUgCw 01:54 < kermie> Ah nope. It still says: "66: insufficient fee" (didn't see at first) 01:54 -!- cjd [~user@2c0f:f930:2:12::] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:56 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 01:56 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 02:08 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 02:31 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 02:34 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:38 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 03:50 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has joined #lightning-dev 03:55 -!- cjd [~user@2c0f:f930:2:12::] has joined #lightning-dev 04:10 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.174.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:24 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 04:24 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #lightning-dev 04:24 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Client Quit] 04:59 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #lightning-dev 05:01 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Client Quit] 05:03 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.174.155] has joined #lightning-dev 05:03 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.174.155] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 05:09 < pepesza> Hi! I'm looking for a paper (article?) that was describing outsourcing of watching of a channel to third party without loss of privacy. 05:11 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has joined #lightning-dev 05:12 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has quit [Client Quit] 05:13 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has joined #lightning-dev 05:13 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 05:14 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has joined #lightning-dev 05:25 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #lightning-dev 05:31 -!- kermie [57d5161c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.213.22.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:43 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:57 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 07:53 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 07:54 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 07:59 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:03 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has joined #lightning-dev 08:13 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:45 < adiabat> pepesza: I gave a talk about it, video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2867&v=Gzg_u9gHc5Q 08:46 < adiabat> pepesza: in-progress code here: https://github.com/mit-dci/lit/tree/master/watchtower 09:21 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-181-078-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:21 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-178-049-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 09:26 -!- HeySteve [~0000@unaffiliated/heysteve] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #lightning-dev 09:52 < bsm117532> Can anyone point me to proposals/discussion of how one would establish an initial payment channel to a counterparty to join the lightning network? Is anyone planning "market maker" type services to open payment channels? 09:58 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:58 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:59 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 10:00 < JackH> it will probably be a natural growth between service companies such as wallets and exchanges 10:00 < JackH> I doubt many people outside of here will even use lightning network natively on their own hardware 10:00 < JackH> it will be blockchain.com and coinbase.com users using it, without even knowing what layer they are on 10:02 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 10:20 -!- dakk__ [~dakk@dynamic-adsl-78-15-226-105.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #lightning-dev 10:21 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 10:21 < bsm117532> I'm asking for specific proposals or discussions...if those companies are planning on doing that, do you have any refs JackH? 10:22 < bsm117532> IOW I want to whore out my bitcoins so other people can open lightning channels. 10:22 -!- dakk_ [~dakk@dynamic-adsl-78-15-241-192.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:22 < bsm117532> And might build something to do so if I can't find an existing project. 10:24 < JackH> what we would need a rebalancing nodes that refills very active connections (channels/hubs) 10:24 < JackH> how you get paid for that is probably a bit more complex 10:24 < JackH> there is no existing project as far I know, we are building this ourselves right now, rebalancing being a big topic 10:31 -!- HeySteve [~0000@unaffiliated/heysteve] has joined #lightning-dev 10:42 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 10:45 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 10:50 -!- jtimon [~quassel@199.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 11:08 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:09 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 11:29 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 11:34 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 12:03 -!- cbits [~cbits@c83-250-193-158.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lightning-dev 12:21 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 12:26 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 12:57 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 13:17 -!- cbits [~cbits@c83-250-193-158.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:27 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:37 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 14:51 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:58 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:57 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:46 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:00 -!- NicolasDorier [sid129442@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvsvivgijxndkhjb] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00 -!- NicolasDorier [sid129442@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tjiwyfzsnftuhazp] has joined #lightning-dev 17:15 -!- HeySteve [~0000@unaffiliated/heysteve] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:16 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:16 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 17:51 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:51 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:12 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 20:03 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 20:14 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:01 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 21:04 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:34 -!- jtimon [~quassel@199.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:08 -!- abrcdbr [~abrcdbr@109.87.232.207] has joined #lightning-dev 23:12 -!- abrcdbr [~abrcdbr@109.87.232.207] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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