--- Day changed Wed Oct 18 2017 00:14 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fghskwtkrmkljqgt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:30 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhwivmlpilissjke] has joined #lightning-dev 00:34 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:53 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #lightning-dev 01:26 -!- dabura667_ [~dabura667@153.142.228.110] has joined #lightning-dev 01:28 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:28 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 01:32 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@188.129.208.212] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:49 -!- alanc [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:50 -!- alanc [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has joined #lightning-dev 01:54 -!- aj [aj@cerulean.erisian.com.au] has joined #lightning-dev 01:58 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:58 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 02:06 -!- JackH [~laptop@91.189.61.70] has joined #lightning-dev 02:13 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #lightning-dev 02:48 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:48 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:03 -!- geezas [uid253218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxbircpsnhnjvcil] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:03 -!- dabura667_ [~dabura667@153.142.228.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 03:15 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 03:43 -!- Emcy_ [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@80.83.137.114] has joined #lightning-dev 03:52 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@80.83.137.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:53 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@80.83.137.114] has joined #lightning-dev 03:59 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:20 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 05:22 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 05:23 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:24 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:24 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 05:30 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:44 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:00 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:01 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:02 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:05 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-177-156-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 06:08 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@36.75.121.234] has joined #lightning-dev 06:10 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@36.75.121.234] has quit [Client Quit] 06:17 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 06:17 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 06:17 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 06:31 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] pm47 closed pull request #258: BOLT 7,11: Added an optional `min_final_cltv_expiry` field in BOLT 11 (master...min-final-expiry-bolt11) https://git.io/vdVzc 06:44 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhwivmlpilissjke] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:50 -!- m8tion [~m8tion@81-65-53-254.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #lightning-dev 07:52 -!- wraithm [~wraithm@unaffiliated/wraithm] has joined #lightning-dev 08:06 -!- arubi_ [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 08:09 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:12 -!- arubi_ is now known as arubi 08:22 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:31 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 08:55 -!- alreadylate [~textual@37-247-1-221.customers.ownit.se] has joined #lightning-dev 08:59 -!- alreadylate [~textual@37-247-1-221.customers.ownit.se] has quit [Client Quit] 09:01 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 09:10 -!- jb55 [~jb55@208.98.200.100] has joined #lightning-dev 09:12 -!- dakk [~dakk@62-11-224-118.dialup.tiscali.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:39 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:49 -!- alanc [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:57 -!- alanc [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has joined #lightning-dev 10:00 -!- JackH [~laptop@91.189.61.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:01 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@80.83.137.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 10:10 -!- m8tion [~m8tion@81-65-53-254.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:25 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:25 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:27 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 10:30 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 10:31 -!- JackH [~laptop@85.219.170.195] has joined #lightning-dev 10:33 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 10:39 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 11:14 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-denvskavcbvtqygt] has joined #lightning-dev 11:35 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@188.129.208.212] has joined #lightning-dev 11:48 < jimpo> Can someone clarify something about the ID field in update_add_htlc messages? https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/02-peer-protocol.md#requirements-9 11:49 < jimpo> Are the IDs supposed to resume from the last one on reconnection? 11:50 < jimpo> It says you can accept some repeated IDs if the updates were not confirmed, but assuming the updates were confirmed and ACKed, the ID sequence should pick up where it left off after the channel is re-established? 11:55 <+roasbeef> yep the id's are persistent, they get persisted with each proposed new commitmetn state 11:55 <+roasbeef> if I send 5 adds, and no sig, and the connection dies, I start over from 0 not 5 11:58 < jimpo> yep. and if you sent 5 adds, commit_sig, receive ack, then the connection dies, then you restart from 5, right? 11:58 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@188.129.208.212] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04 <+roasbeef> they need to send the sig upon connect I send ack (as we detect we need to resync), then yeh I start from 5. if i never got the ack (so I don't know if they got my sig), i re-send those 5 and the sig 12:07 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mysxkbftkajsreez] has joined #lightning-dev 12:08 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:11 -!- alanc [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:27 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@188.129.208.212] has joined #lightning-dev 12:31 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:33 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lightning-dev 13:29 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-177-156-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:42 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-177-156-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 13:49 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:56 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lightning-dev 13:59 -!- JackH [~laptop@85.219.170.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:14 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:19 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lightning-dev 14:34 -!- fluidjax [~fluidjax@host81-153-234-3.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lightning-dev 14:38 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:44 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:50 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 14:55 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 15:01 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:02 -!- moctos [~moctos@cpe-107-9-138-59.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 15:04 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 15:10 -!- wraithm [~wraithm@unaffiliated/wraithm] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:18 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 15:55 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 15:59 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@188.129.208.212] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07 -!- alanc44 [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has joined #lightning-dev 16:12 -!- alanc44 [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:23 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has quit [] 17:02 < jimpo> BOLT 2 says with regards to update_{fulfill,fail,malformed_fail}_htlc: A receiving node MUST check that id corresponds to an HTLC in its current commitment transaction, and MUST fail the channel if it does not. 17:02 -!- jb55 [~jb55@208.98.200.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:02 < jimpo> I don't think it provides guidance on what happens if you receive multiple in a batch before the next commitment 17:03 < jimpo> so an HTLC is committed, then the receiving end sends fail, then fulfill, then commit_signature. What should the other end do? 17:03 < jimpo> what about two fulfills? 17:08 < jimpo> Er, I mean for the same HTLC ID 17:24 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:25 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 17:28 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 17:31 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:39 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 17:52 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 17:56 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:13 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 18:17 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mysxkbftkajsreez] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:35 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:25 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:25 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 19:41 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-53.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:44 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:13 -!- wraithm [~wraithm@unaffiliated/wraithm] has joined #lightning-dev 20:17 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 20:17 -!- wraithm [~wraithm@unaffiliated/wraithm] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:19 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Client Quit] 20:23 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-denvskavcbvtqygt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:09 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 21:26 -!- Pekoms is now known as Rozal 21:26 -!- Rozal [uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hxkvcczefrqnwhpw] has quit [Changing host] 21:26 -!- Rozal [uid50160@unaffiliated/rozal] has joined #lightning-dev 21:26 -!- Rozal [uid50160@unaffiliated/rozal] has quit [Changing host] 21:26 -!- Rozal [uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hxkvcczefrqnwhpw] has joined #lightning-dev 21:45 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gpsjbfsqolqirsrh] has joined #lightning-dev 21:58 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fozbjbmbflhahbds] has joined #lightning-dev 22:50 < jb55> reading through the rfcs for the first time... how does chain_hash in open_channel distinguish between forks that share the same genesis block? 22:54 < jb55> I guess it would just be the hash of the block at the point it forked from the parent chain... 22:57 -!- alanc44 [~alanc@109.255.196.64] has joined #lightning-dev 23:00 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:03 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 23:20 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@athedsl-315161.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lightning-dev 23:20 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@athedsl-315161.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Changing host] 23:20 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has joined #lightning-dev 23:28 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]