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If alice knows the private key, what stops Bob from creating a TX with the private key and announcing that tx with C1b? 11:19 < AndyS2> isn't that just a race, and bob could win, or lose everything? 11:20 < adiabat> AndyS2: Bob has to wait due to op_csv 11:20 < adiabat> though I guess op_csv came after the paper so might not be called that 11:22 < AndyS2> thank you. I suppose I just haven't wrapped my head around it enough. maybe it'd help to see the actual bitcoin script for all new tx types 11:23 < adiabat> the script isn't too bad 11:23 < adiabat> it's basically (key1 or (key2 & time)) 11:23 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:23 < adiabat> though key1 is a combined key of alice & bob 11:24 -!- noglar_ [~cl0uding@62.43.144.42.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:24 < adiabat> in my code the script for that is here: https://github.com/mit-dci/lit/blob/master/lnutil/lnlib.go#L12 11:24 < AndyS2> so bob could only do key2 & time, and alice, knowing both parts of key1 now, can do key1 11:24 < adiabat> yup 11:25 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:26 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:29 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:29 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:30 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:31 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 11:32 -!- zshlyk is now known as intcat 11:33 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:33 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:33 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ltqopvcxtqeroyya] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:33 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:38 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined #lightning-dev 11:39 -!- imabinarydigit01 [~IRCTestSS@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has joined #lightning-dev 11:48 -!- bauerj [~bauerj@unaffiliated/bauerj] has joined #lightning-dev 11:50 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:52 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 11:54 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 12:10 -!- cl0uding [~cl0uding@62.43.144.42.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lightning-dev 12:16 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 12:39 -!- photonclock [~photonclo@47.37.153.193] has quit [Quit: photonclock] 12:40 -!- CASEgezadthfr [~ZZXv@lmcfwa.ericsson.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:06 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:07 -!- ralphtheninja [~lms@c-a6abd954.501201261703-0-757473696b74.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lightning-dev 13:07 < ralphtheninja> o/ 13:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 13:13 -!- pavle_ [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lightning-dev 13:16 < pavle_> Hi, can anyone explain if there will be a specific server requirements for shops who want to run Woocommerce LN plugin? 13:18 < cdecker> You'll have to run the lightning client somewhere and a full node (for now) 13:18 < cdecker> Are you referring to the https://github.com/ElementsProject/woocommerce-gateway-lightning project? 13:19 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 13:20 < pavle_> cdecker I'm referring to this one https://twitter.com/joaodealmeida94/status/936704579244347393/video/1 not sure if it's the same. 13:22 < cdecker> Ah no that's a different one 13:22 < cdecker> Wouldn't know about that one 13:25 < pavle_> And the one you linked, does not have a required server specs to run? Just trying to understand LN and woocommerce. As I would really like to try it out in a live environment once you guys need such test. 13:27 < cdecker> The one that I linked uses the REST API built around c-lightning, so you'd need to have a server (not necessarily your webserver) that runs c-lightning and the REST API server, shouldn't be too taxing 13:27 < cdecker> (once we remove the need for a full bitcoind node from c-lightning) 13:29 < pavle_> I'm curious if it will work with shared hosting. 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