--- Day changed Wed Dec 20 2017 00:16 -!- Kozuch [~Kozuch@81.0.198.168] has joined #lightning-dev 00:21 < rusty> jb55: just committed fix to master. Try rebasing again. Sorry for the noise :( 00:21 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22 < jb55> it's all good. pushed. 00:22 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 00:23 -!- Kozuch [~Kozuch@81.0.198.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:29 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 00:50 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #lightning-dev 00:53 < Sentineo> why does e.g. enclair need full blockchain and does not support prunning? Is it needed for lightning in general? 00:54 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bsjyxkazjwgzecok] has joined #lightning-dev 01:00 -!- yoctopede is now known as intcat 01:04 < jb55> Sentineo: hmm you might have luck asking that in their official irc channel at gitter, they seem pretty active in that channel 01:04 < rusty> Sentineo: At the moment, to know if a channel is really there, you need to check its transaction/ 01:05 < rusty> Sentineo: it's quite possible one day to use a compact proof for that, but it's not in 1.0. 01:06 < rusty> Sentineo: Also lnd uses neutrino, which is way cool, and means it only downloads blocks it needs. That is a big step forward, too (looking forward to it becoming standard). 01:08 < jb55> rusty: so close https://jb55.com/s/649d5311685db8a0.png tests flaky? 01:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10 < rusty> There is one flaky test, actually... the random routing benchmark. Sometimes it tries to attach a node to itself. Typing up fix now... 01:11 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 01:11 < rusty> jb55: Nope, this is something else. Looks like test flakiness, let me reproduce locally... 01:11 < Sentineo> hm neutrino? did not hear about it (other than the particle :P) 01:11 < Sentineo> will google it, thanks rusty 01:12 -!- melik [~melik@97.90.42.34] has joined #lightning-dev 01:12 < jb55> Sentineo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FWKc8lM4Ek 01:12 < rusty> Sentineo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FWKc8lM4Ek Nothing to do with lightning per-se, just roasbeef moving the mountain because it was in the way :) 01:13 < Sentineo> ah cool 01:13 < Sentineo> I already told BTC world to stop, can not keep up :P 01:14 < Sentineo> learning C++, too many things 01:14 < jb55> some people think it doesn't move fast enough :) 01:14 < Sentineo> bad I bet on networking and not coding 01:14 < Sentineo> ah the development is insane ... did not see such "industry" on steroids before 01:15 < jb55> only reason I'm working on it is because I now have some freedom to do so thanks to Bitcoin... 01:15 < Sentineo> yeah my plan is to be able to do bitcoin stuff full time 01:16 < Sentineo> having 3 jobs does not help right now 01:20 -!- sw2016 [4fe9aaae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.233.170.174] has joined #lightning-dev 01:23 < sw2016> I'm trying to open a channel with the output of 'bitcoin-cli -testnet getrawtransaction' via 'cli/lightning-cli addfunds ' and get the error 'cli/lightning-cli addfunds ' 01:24 < sw2016> lightningd(4957):jcon fd 15: Failing: No usable outputs 01:24 < rusty> sw2016: with the latest version it should just notice when the tx is mined. 01:25 < rusty> sw2016: but that means it didn't find any payment to an address lightningd knows. I assume you used lightning-cli newaddr to get an address? 01:25 < sw2016> yes 01:25 < rusty> Hmm, care to dump the output somewhere? How did you generate the tx to pay it? 01:26 -!- Kozuch [~Kozuch@81.0.198.168] has joined #lightning-dev 01:26 < rusty> @sw2016 A testnet block exporer should show you the tx, too. 01:26 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70.36.49.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:27 < sw2016> bitcoin-cli -testnet listtransactions => "txid": "c6a6443233b8ccd7b5c54ec975eea6a52f3d50ad902e904532c155f7634e7755" 01:27 < sw2016> then: bitcoin-cli -testnet getrawtransaction c6a6443233b8ccd7b5c54ec975eea6a52f3d50ad902e904532c155f7634e7755 01:28 < sw2016> sorry i'm totally new - i dont know about tesstnet block explorer 01:28 < rusty> sw2016: what addr did lightningd tell you to pay to? 01:29 -!- wxss [~user@185.22.175.244] has joined #lightning-dev 01:30 < rusty> mfjCdpStEjLrNknWzx2nC5UxgT9QaW1ssJ ? 01:31 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-winttpqgshlxwsjd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:31 < sw2016> rusty thanks - I think i got my mistake - i thought bitcoin address is the same as lightning 01:32 < rusty> sw2016: lightning needs fuel :) 01:33 < rusty> And for future reference: https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/ 01:35 < sw2016> ok fund is now done - to which node can i connect? 01:37 < lndbot1> sw2016: yalls.org is a fun one if it's up. 01:37 < lndbot1> You can also check out the explorer here https://explorer.acinq.co/#/ 01:40 < rusty> You can pick a node randomly from the explorer, or use the dns seed (by hand at the moment): nslookup lseed.bitcoinstats.com 01:40 < rusty> Note that some nodes are running pre-spec versions, so they'll get upset with you... 01:41 < sw2016> I tried node alias 025eeb02baf7555a3601 as node id, which isn't accepted - what is the node id? 01:48 -!- surj [63fbb4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.251.180.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:50 < sw2016> ok, got it node id = node public key 01:55 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:14 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/go1111111] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:15 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/go1111111] has joined #lightning-dev 02:22 < rusty> cdecker: our gossip problems are back :( under valgrind, I get a channel update from another node before I get a channel announce. Sometimes.... 02:24 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 02:29 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 02:32 -!- nickler [~nickler@185.12.46.130] has joined #lightning-dev 02:36 -!- sw2016 [4fe9aaae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.233.170.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:02 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 03:15 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:17 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 03:21 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@CPE-101-181-27-144.lnse4.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:21 -!- 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#lightning-dev 04:48 < rusty> cdecker: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/463 should make the current failure in test_reconnect_sender_add1 and related tests go away. 04:48 < rusty> If it passes travis, please merge. 04:48 < rusty> (I'm going to get some sleep!) 04:49 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Client Quit] 04:54 < cdecker> Absolutely :+1: 04:55 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum2 [~Myself@80.107.151.135] has joined #lightning-dev 04:55 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:55 -!- riclas [~riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 05:06 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@CPE-101-181-92-167.lnse5.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:12 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum2 [~Myself@80.107.151.135] has quit [] 05:12 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@80.107.151.135] has joined #lightning-dev 05:12 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@80.107.151.135] has quit [Changing host] 05:12 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to setup a eclair node and accept payments, works great 12:09 < surj> i.e. user => hub payment 12:09 < surj> I'm wondering how/if hub => user payments will work 12:10 < surj> I don't have a receive payment option in eclair wallet. I do have one in lighting-app but as far as I can tell it's not working yet (getting routing error) 12:10 < surj> probably not configured correctly on my end since my lightning-app instance is not reachable from internet 12:24 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nslctfukrorvdhuh] has joined #lightning-dev 12:28 < molz> surj, No your payments can be routed to someone you don't have a channel with, but you can't relay or receive payments. The rationale behind this is explained here: https://medium.com/@ACINQ/announcing-eclair-wallet-a8d8c136fc7e 12:31 < surj> fuck yes trustless third party watchers is what we need then I guess 12:31 < surj> thanks for the link 12:31 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:32 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 12:50 -!- jb55 [~jb55@d108-172-210-7.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 13:00 -!- JackH_ [~laptop@host-80-43-140-59.as13285.net] has joined #lightning-dev 13:02 -!- laptop__ [~laptop@host-80-43-142-247.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:05 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 13:09 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-076-254-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:09 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-226-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 13:22 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 13:24 -!- jb55 [~jb55@184.68.162.218] has joined #lightning-dev 13:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:55 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 13:56 -!- jb55 [~jb55@184.68.162.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:05 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 14:06 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 14:14 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lightning-dev 14:19 < BlueMatt> what unit is feerate_per_kw in? 14:19 < BlueMatt> msat or sat? 14:25 < cdecker> Pretty sure it's satoshi 14:25 < cdecker> Everything that touches on-chain txs is denominated in satoshis afaik 14:26 < BlueMatt> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/issues/336 14:26 < cdecker> Good catch, had to check myself 14:28 < BlueMatt> sat/kb doesnt make much sense? you lose a ton of precision there? 14:28 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 < BlueMatt> normally things are sat/byte which gets you enough precision 14:29 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 14:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 14:30 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:30 < cdecker> Not really, 1 sat/kwu -> 0.001 sat/wu 14:31 < BlueMatt> ohoh, right, sorry, wrong direction 14:35 < cdecker> Yeah, but it's weird you're right 14:45 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 14:55 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0] 15:04 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has quit [] 15:05 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 15:12 -!- surj [~nick@CPE64777dde7433-CM64777dde7430.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:19 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 15:36 -!- Kozuch [~Kozuch@81.0.198.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:44 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 15:45 < tjader> Is the desktop client supposed to be able to route outgoing payments? 15:54 < rusty> tjader: which client? I believe they all do, anyway. 15:57 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 16:01 < tjader> https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-app this one 16:01 < tjader> But it seems the problem is in the other end of the channel 16:02 < tjader> I´m running that app on my desktop and lnd on a server 16:02 < tjader> I have a channel from the app to lnd 16:02 < tjader> And a channel from lnd to the faucet 16:03 < tjader> But after asking here I tried paying from the lnd node and it also failed 16:04 < tjader> I have "local_balance": "34651" on the channel between lnd and the faucet 16:04 < tjader> And I´m trying to send 1200 s 16:06 < tjader> I think the problem is on starblocks, I can´t pay them from anywhere now 16:16 -!- impractical [615871bc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.88.113.188] has joined #lightning-dev 16:16 < impractical> who in their right minds uses this as a development channel? 16:21 < molz> tjader, i think the lnd app needs an upgrade and it will be soon, can you run lnd fullnode or neutrino or Eclair mobile wallet? 16:21 -!- impractical [615871bc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.88.113.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:22 < tjader> I managed to buy stuff on starblocks earlier with both lnd neutrino and eclair 16:23 < tjader> And also with htlc.me 16:23 < tjader> But now nothing works 16:23 < lndbot1> Did you try to create a direct channel to htlc.me ? 16:23 < tjader> What do you mean? 16:24 < tjader> I´m trying to pay starblocks 16:25 < lndbot1> @tjader testnet constantly has different breaking versions being tested so it's assumed stuff can be broken at any moment if a good chunk don't update 16:26 < tjader> Just tried a payment on starblocks and one on yalls, yalls worked and starblocks didn´t 16:26 < lndbot1> Oh I see, yes that hasn’t been working for a while for me either 16:26 < molz> because these things are still in testing? 16:26 < tjader> Yeah, I think starblocks is the borken one 16:26 < lndbot1> I tried to make some new channels to starblocks but I don’t know which node to make a channel to 16:27 < molz> so if something doesn't work, you make a report? 16:27 < tjader> molz, that´s what I was trying to figure out, if it was the wallet or something else 16:27 < lndbot1> I don’t think it’s a bug it is just how they have setup their nodes 16:28 < molz> yep, my eclair wallet can't create new channels, so i just reported on their forum 16:28 < molz> https://gitter.im/ACINQ/eclair 16:28 < tjader> Anyway, bedtime here 16:28 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28 < tjader> Thanks for the help 16:29 < molz> tjader, thanks for helping with the testing :D 16:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 16:30 < molz> alexbosworth ya i'm cleaning out the database on this phone to see if it'll create channels again, probably i've got too much stuff 16:31 < lndbot1> I also tried to close some channels with pending htlcs but 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(NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODExowidd: rusty _flow_ melik PaulCapestany go1111111 mwat 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN I 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEhrcyomnwpm: nickler buZz spinza Doombatz cdec 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEffnfkccex: Doombatz mwats 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODErbygs 20:41 < buZz> oh blinking, nice 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROO 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE 20:41 < buZz> i feel back in the 80s now 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FRE 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEiununidv: eck DrFeelGood cdecker melik Seven_ 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEovxwtz: eck mwatson tuxcanfly Emcy 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEtmmagnz: arubi jtimon rusty Vortiago_ cdecker DrFeelGoo 20:41 -!- mode/#lightning-dev [+o rusty] by ChanServ 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEityeny: melik montecarl Compy_ m8tion Vortiago_ MaxSan arubi mdro 20:41 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lightning-dev 20:41 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ 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sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODElpmci 20:42 < buZz> fu 20:42 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEvwdqee: buZz St 20:42 < buZz> why do ppl leave channels without +n 20:42 < buZz> ffs 20:42 -!- dax [~dax@freenode/staff/dax] has joined #lightning-dev 20:42 < jadu-ja990> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEelubvb: intcat arubi k1ltzman 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Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN I 20:42 < dax> ah, that explains my tab complete not working, thanks 20:42 -!- mode/#lightning-dev [+n] by rusty 20:43 -!- mode/#lightning-dev [-n] by ChanServ 20:45 <@rusty> buZz: I turned it on for github bots, otherwise they jump in and out. 20:45 <@rusty> If that happens again, I'll remove it. 20:46 < buZz> you mean, off :P 20:47 < buZz> welp, i'll assist reporting any spambots 20:47 < buZz> least i can do i guess 20:52 -!- dax [~dax@freenode/staff/dax] has left #lightning-dev [] 20:55 < meshcollider> Why does ChanServ keep changing the channel back to -n as soon as you change it? 20:55 < molz> because the channel was set by mods like that 20:56 < molz> so that gitbot can send announcements in here 20:56 <@rusty> meshcollider: yeah, I can tell chanserv to change it, and was about to when it stopped anyway. 20:57 < meshcollider> ah I see 20:57 < molz> how can you tell chanserv to change it? 20:58 <@rusty> molz: /msg chanserv set #lightning-dev mlock +n 20:58 < molz> ah.. thanks, rusty, i'll do that next time for #lnd 20:59 <@rusty> molz: or, if you're like me, you /msg chanserv help, /msg chanserv help set, google for github IRC hooks, click a few links... then notice that the spam is over anwyay :) 20:59 < molz> yea thanks 20:59 < molz> yup they always do it so fast before we can stop them, then they get klined 21:03 -!- surj [~nick@CPE64777dde7433-CM64777dde7430.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lightning-dev 21:06 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:07 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:10 -!- mr_burdell [~mr_burdel@unaffiliated/mr-burdell/x-7609603] has joined #lightning-dev 21:11 -!- takinbo_ [~takinbo@unaffiliated/takinbo] has joined #lightning-dev 21:12 -!- c40d9b0743a91f40 [~2c232c25c@unaffiliated/c40d9b0743a91f40] has 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