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02:25 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] CjS77 opened pull request #354: Fix typo (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vNmbp
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06:09 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] pm47 created early-mutual-close (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vNYGg
06:09 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/early-mutual-close e0bcc3e Pierre-Marie Padiou: clarify that nodes may support early mutual close
06:12 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] pm47 opened pull request #355: BOLT 2: clarify that nodes may support early mutual close (master...early-mutual-close) https://git.io/vNYGh
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06:51 < scalability-junk> Anyone else has issues aka state being pending for lightning.bitrefill.com?
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08:23 < ighezzi> cdecker: Hi, is it the right moment to try do some tests on c-lightning, or we should wait for a stable version?
08:25 < cdecker> Testnet is always a good place to start, I'd discourage mainnet for now and suggest waiting for a stable release
08:26 < ighezzi> yes, we are in regtest and testnet, but we are getting lot of errors
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16:16 < surj> Quick question: If someone pushes an old commitment transaction on chain (i.e. tries to rip me off)
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16:16 < surj> can I use that transaction as an input to my commitment transaction?
16:16 < surj> sorry, my revocation transaction (I think that's the right term)
16:16 < surj> and the do something like child pays for parent
16:17 < surj> to get it to confirm quickly? I could set the fees to be as large as the channel capacity and it would still be free for me
16:17 < surj> right?
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17:48 <+roasbeef> surj: you don't even need to do cpfp, you can just use their funds (that you're revoking) to push towards fees, until either: you spend all their money to fees, or they end up spending even more and end of net negative 
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18:40 < Amperture> Something occurred to me
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18:42 < Amperture> We both hold a 2of2 transaction with only our counterparty's signature correct. How and when are the fees for that transaction determined? In the event a channel needs to be closed, how to we know the closing transaction will be high enough fee to confirm?
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19:49 < surj> roasbeef: Fantastic! Thanks for answering my questions dude, helps me fight the fud
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19:53 < molz> Amperture, you can set your fee rate
19:54 < Amperture> So it turns out "when" actually is a pretty important question when it comes to setting fees.
19:54 < Amperture> Now that I think of it
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