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found that if i initiated a handshake with a node, then to decrypt its first `init` message i must use sk, i.e. the "sending key" 06:47 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elgnlkvraookdoxs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:11 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:29 < Amperture> @EvanR, ...oh man, now that I've played with Yalls, I'm ten-thousand percent sure that LN will work for the use-case I'm thinking of. 07:34 -!- daouzo23 [~daraki235@81-223-13-90.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:41 < jojeyh> :D 07:46 < jojeyh> whats the use case? if you don't mind me asking 07:50 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 07:54 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 07:57 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:59 < Amperture> Twitch/YouTube live donation tracking. 07:59 < Amperture> If you've seen Streamlabs 07:59 < Amperture> And how they fire alerts live on video whenever someone tips their stream 08:01 < Amperture> I originally developed CoinJerk to support Bitcoin donations on Twitch streams using strictly on-chain BTC. I had some questions about LN (and I still do) for making it work for Twitch, but like 90% of my questions got answered when playing with Yalls. Or at least when playing with Yalls I realized there _is_ an answer. 08:08 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-116-35.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:26 < jojeyh> schweet 08:38 -!- tuxx_ [~tuxx@bdn.de] has joined #lightning-dev 08:39 < tuxx_> is there a slack or gitter channel? irc is so .... 90ties 08:49 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has joined #lightning-dev 08:52 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.165.130.220.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lightning-dev 08:53 < Amperture> That's like asking "Is there a MySpace?" Circa early 2000's. 08:54 < Amperture> Or "Is there an MSN Messenger Group?" Or "How about an AIM Chatroom" I mean I could go on... 08:55 -!- fluidjax [~fluidjax@host86-142-41-170.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lightning-dev 08:58 < mlz> cool.. would love to see this on Twitch 08:58 -!- finkan [~finkan@194-103-214-178.kund.ipswe.com] has joined #lightning-dev 08:58 < mlz> Amperture, make a testnet case for us to play with 08:59 < Amperture> @mlz, I just might, I already have on-chain donations working with Streamlabs alerts. 08:59 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.165.130.220.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:06 < Amperture> Unfortunately I think on-chain will have to remain a main way to receive for a lot of users, but LN _can_ work if I can get the flow right. 09:07 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 09:09 -!- Murch [~murch@c-73-223-113-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 09:16 -!- jb55 [~jb55@208.98.200.100] has joined #lightning-dev 09:22 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:23 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 09:28 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.165.130.220.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lightning-dev 09:38 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.165.130.220.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.165.130.220.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lightning-dev 09:41 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 09:51 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 09:52 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.165.130.220.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:56 -!- finkan [~finkan@194-103-214-178.kund.ipswe.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:17 -!- takinbo [~takinbo@unaffiliated/takinbo] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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