--- Day changed Fri Jan 19 2018 00:16 -!- renepickhardt [5b39b8fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.57.184.251] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:21 -!- plankers [~plank@c-73-2-4-197.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:24 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 00:28 -!- TD-Linux [~Thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:28 -!- kousakahonoka [kousakahon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ahmpmcmliaqngjie] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:28 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kajlnqyvowrcnlly] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:33 -!- TD-Linux [~Thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux] has joined #lightning-dev 00:34 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lightning-dev 00:36 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has joined #lightning-dev 00:37 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has quit [Client Quit] 00:37 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has joined #lightning-dev 00:41 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:43 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hjglzupbodrctybt] has joined #lightning-dev 00:43 -!- kousakahonoka [kousakahon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ujopitbteuzhszwd] has joined #lightning-dev 01:16 -!- tomichec [~pi@ip-86-49-245-13.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:19 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20 -!- reardencode [~reardenco@hank.reardencode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lightning-dev 01:29 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f13761c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:32 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 01:35 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has joined #lightning-dev 01:39 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has joined #lightning-dev 01:39 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:44 < luke-jr> is there a testnet https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/# site? 01:46 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:47 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has quit [Quit: sandeep] 01:52 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 01:54 < meshcollider> luke-jr: like https://explorer.acinq.co/#/ ? 01:58 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has joined #lightning-dev 02:01 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:09 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:5d7b:2997:2923:d865] has joined #lightning-dev 02:09 < luke-jr> it's a bit fancier :P 02:11 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvymnljarxrmeuux] has joined #lightning-dev 02:15 < meshcollider> it shouldn't be too difficult to run a site like that on top of a node anyway I'd imagine 02:16 < provoostenator> luke-jr: I knew about the testnet explorer but was looking for the mainnet one, thanks :-) 02:18 < meshcollider> provoostenator: do you have a spare server, lets make our own ;) 02:18 < meshcollider> gaben.win is down atm 02:18 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:19 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 02:19 < provoostenator> meshcollider: it worked for me 2 minutes ago. I'm generally lazy, but might setup one myself at some point if nobody beats me to it (take your time...) 02:20 < luke-jr> meshcollider: doesn't look down to me 02:20 < meshcollider> gah im getting cloudflare timeouts, favoritism aye 02:21 < meshcollider> provoostenator: you're safe from little ol' serverless me ;) 02:21 < provoostenator> meshcollider: EC2 is pretty easy to use these days. 02:22 < luke-jr> no, it isn't :P 02:22 < luke-jr> err, not safe anyway 02:22 < luke-jr> somehow my funds disappeared. oh well 02:23 < provoostenator> luke-jr: do you happen to have a transaction accelerator? I underpaid my channel funding tx :-( 02:26 < luke-jr> for testnet? 02:26 < provoostenator> No, mainnet. 02:26 < luke-jr> I might or might not know of one or two :P 02:26 < provoostenator> Is it even possible to underpay on testnet? 02:26 < luke-jr> dunno 02:27 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:27 < luke-jr> do you have a txid? 02:28 < tuxx> i'm trying to connect to the testnet lightning faucet by doing "lnd --bitcoin.active connect bla@bla" but that command simply hangs... 02:32 < meshcollider> tuxx: maybe better asked in #lnd channel 02:34 < tuxx> ah k thx 02:56 -!- lrns [59ff2fa0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.255.47.160] has joined #lightning-dev 02:58 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 03:03 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lightning-dev 03:12 -!- anome 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Having some issues over there: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7rjel9/changetip_is_back_via_the_lightning_network/dsxmbyj/ 13:17 < hector_j> If anyone has an idea of what is going wrong and/or how to fix it, it would be greatly appreciated :) 13:24 -!- AndiMacTen [17e285a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.23.226.133.165] has joined #lightning-dev 13:25 <+roasbeef> hector_j: i don't recommend mainnet usage... 13:27 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 13:34 < spudowiar> hector_j: Also, c-lightning has lots of issues with routing, in my experience (even on testnet) 13:39 -!- DrOlmer [~DrOlmer@unaffiliated/drolmer] has joined #lightning-dev 13:40 <+roasbeef> would recommend getting familiar on testnet for now, knowing how channels work, invoices, etc, etc 13:45 -!- TerminusAlamond4 [~TerminusA@sj0.logicfailed.com] has joined #lightning-dev 13:49 -!- mughat [~textual@x1-6-28-c6-8e-30-bf-4a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:54 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wycsvmcfcgjhmsqq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:55 < ianthius> okay folks, careful launching a c-lightning node from testnet later into testnet. 13:56 < ianthius> all the data seems to be co-mingled together. I thought listfunds was probably just not telling me some were mainnet and some were testnet, but they are all comingled and when i tried to open a channel with a mainnet node it used testnet inputs.. 14:07 < mlz> ianthius, i guess you meant to say, "careful launching a c-lightning node from testnet later into MAINNET"? 14:08 < ianthius> mlz: yes, sorry about the typo 14:08 < ianthius> i THINK i should have deleted the .lighting folder.. or moved it 14:08 < mlz> got it, thank you, that's weird, how could the data be comingled.. 14:08 < mlz> ah that 14:09 < ianthius> now i am unsure as to how to even withdraw the txid of each coin to seperate them 14:09 < mlz> yes, you should have deleted it or moved to another place 14:10 < mlz> im wondering if the code should say "STOP. Wrong chain" 14:10 < ianthius> mlz: no, it should know you launched lightningd on mainnet and create a new database 14:10 < instagibbs> mlz, there should be a sanity check, it's quite easy to do 14:10 < ianthius> or set of databases 14:10 < mlz> yea i guess so 14:10 < ianthius> like the testnet3 folder in .bitcoin 14:11 < instagibbs> mlz, in elements sidechain software, it asks the host bitcoind what the genesis hash is, you could also have it ask what chain it is directly 14:11 < instagibbs> so if there's wires crossed it just barfs on startup 14:11 < mlz> instagibbs is our saviour for clightning, please do :D 14:12 <+roasbeef> or just namespace it all with a proper directory structure 14:12 < ianthius> cdecker: i could call withdraw, but now i think it will try to pull inputs from testnet coins for the withdrawal 14:13 <+roasbeef> could pop it open to do manual coin selection maybe 14:13 <+roasbeef> would be kinda involved tho prob 14:13 < ianthius> does it have a manual coin selection mode? 14:14 < instagibbs> oh yeah, proper directories, this issue isn't about cross-process talk 14:14 < instagibbs> thought prob still a good idea for data scraping from backend 14:15 < ianthius> i'd like to clean the database but there is almost a million sats in there 14:16 -!- mughat [~textual@x1-6-28-c6-8e-30-bf-4a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #lightning-dev 14:16 < ianthius> so i'll have to figure out how to output the wallet somehow at least 14:19 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 14:22 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:e93c:6a30:fd51:e2c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:23 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has left #lightning-dev [] 14:33 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 14:34 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:99a5:d356:f613:adc5] has joined #lightning-dev 14:47 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:48 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lightning-dev 14:48 -!- AndiMacTen [17e285a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.23.226.133.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:53 < mlz> yarp.. for LND there're separat divisions of chains 14:53 < mlz> separate* 14:54 < mlz> and databases 14:54 < mlz> ~/.lnd/data$ ls -a 14:54 < mlz> . .. bitcoin macaroons.db mainnet testnet3 14:55 < lndbot> much of our database is also segmented internally by chainhash 14:55 < mlz> :thumbsup: :D 14:56 < lndbot> just for peace of mind :slightly_smiling_face: 14:58 < ianthius> i should have stopped when i saw the testnet nodes and coins, but i got a mainnet address from "newaddr" so i figured it must know i am on mainnet! lol 14:58 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 15:00 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 15:00 < ianthius> https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/678 15:00 < ianthius> ^^Filed an issue in case people care to follow along 15:01 < ianthius> i would start launching a lnd node now. But i am all out of satoshis that I care to move 15:02 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 15:03 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 15:04 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 15:05 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:06 -!- wxss [~user@109.169.64.155] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:07 -!- plankers [~plank@c-73-2-4-197.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:12 < luke-jr> how do I send to a normal address from a channel? 15:12 < luke-jr> with c-lightning 15:16 < ianthius> i don't think you can send from a payment channel to a normal address. 15:17 < ianthius> do you mean how do you close your channel and push the proceeds to a specific address? 15:19 -!- hector_j [58bed82b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.190.216.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:20 < Emcy> is channel balancing ever been demonstrated yet? 15:20 < Emcy> if it had to name the 'secret sauce' in LN so far it would be the HTLC and channel balancing 15:21 < Emcy> id expect the first imperative in routing to become maximising channel balancing 15:23 -!- wraithm [~wraithm@unaffiliated/wraithm] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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This is doable from my understanding, but where do the fees come from? Within the ln-channel? Can I use parent pays for child to increase priority? 23:33 -!- trizko [~trizko@97-93-114-79.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 23:44 -!- trizko [~trizko@97-93-114-79.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44 -!- trizko [~trizko@97-93-114-79.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 23:45 -!- trizko [~trizko@97-93-114-79.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47 -!- trizko [~trizko@97-93-114-79.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 23:52 -!- trizko [~trizko@97-93-114-79.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev