--- Day changed Wed Feb 07 2018 00:08 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd581.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lightning-dev 00:39 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lightning-dev 00:56 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] johnta0 opened pull request #379: Now the sentence makes sense. (master...master) https://git.io/vAfO2 01:01 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 01:03 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has joined #lightning-dev 01:09 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 01:15 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@92-111-70-106.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #lightning-dev 01:27 -!- ougha_ [~quassel@b2b-130-180-107-194.unitymedia.biz] has joined #lightning-dev 01:28 -!- ougha_ [~quassel@b2b-130-180-107-194.unitymedia.biz] has quit [Changing host] 01:28 -!- ougha_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/ougha] has joined #lightning-dev 01:29 -!- cjcj [d4555899@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.85.88.153] has joined #lightning-dev 01:30 < cjcj> Will it be possible to setup a lightning node as a hidden service anytime soon? I noticed none of the major implementations support it yet. 01:36 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has joined #lightning-dev 01:39 < provoostenator> roasbeef: thanks. Has anyone tested if sha3, because it (apparantly) doesn't need hmac to make mac safe, without hardware acceleration is faster than two(?) sha256 rounds with hardware acceleration? 01:41 < provoostenator> Are there any best practices for path finding algos? It seems that if everyone just follows the shortest and/or cheaper path, an attacker can still a lot of insight if they control a few well connected hubs, especially if they charge negative fees to encourage their use. 01:49 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 01:50 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 02:02 < wumpus> I agree with roasbeef about sha2, even though sha3 has some improvements, cases that sha2 needs to work around, HMAC-SHA256 is well-proven and used in many applications (esp bitcoin) and many implementations are already available. No one really uses sha3. 02:04 < bitonic-cjp> ..yet 02:05 < wumpus> hehe yes with encryption algorithms there's some 'you first' attitude 02:05 < wumpus> over time, constructions gain credibility because they're analyzed by many cryptographers and no one finds significant holes 02:06 < wumpus> always uses the newest is very unwise (sorry, grandpa signing off) 02:14 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has joined #lightning-dev 02:23 -!- matsjj [~matsjj@p5089FF7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lightning-dev 02:37 -!- wxss [~user@46-227-66-220.static.obenetwork.net] has joined #lightning-dev 03:00 -!- daouzo23 [~daraki235@81-223-13-90.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15 -!- ralphtheninja [~lms@c-1ea8d954.501802061703-0-757473696b74.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lightning-dev 03:30 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lightning-dev 03:34 -!- ralphtheninja [~lms@c-1ea8d954.501802061703-0-757473696b74.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:35 -!- django [~wings@s91904421.blix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:43 -!- qxt [~wings@2a02:20c8:4124::7e] has joined #lightning-dev 03:45 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47 -!- ralphtheninja [~lms@c-1ea8d954.501802061703-0-757473696b74.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lightning-dev 04:14 -!- qxt [~wings@2a02:20c8:4124::7e] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:19 < cjcj> Will it be possible to setup a lightning node as a hidden service anytime soon? I noticed none of the major implementations support it yet. 04:28 < bitonic-cjp> I think "getting it working" and "don't lose funds" and "have no security holes" have higher priority, but hidden service support is definitely something that is planned for the future. 04:33 < mlz> cjcj, i think lnd will have it soon 04:41 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:d4e:6426:974b:5965] has joined #lightning-dev 04:47 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47 -!- fructase [~user@106.51.36.200] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48 < provoostenator> I'm fine with the "let other people try sha3 first" argument. 04:49 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] practicalswift opened pull request #380: Change from "Encrypting Messages"/"Decrypting Messages" to "Encrypting and Sending Messages"/"Reading and Decrypting Messages" (master...encrypt-and-send) https://git.io/vAfo8 05:02 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 05:02 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-115-22.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:04 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-120-64.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lightning-dev 05:04 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 05:19 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 05:25 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:33 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:34 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 05:37 -!- cjcj [d4555899@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.85.88.153] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:51 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 06:02 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:05 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 06:09 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 06:10 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 06:12 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has joined #lightning-dev 06:14 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 06:27 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 06:37 < wumpus> cjcj: the problem isn't setting up a hidden service, you can do that by having Tor forward the lightning port, it's just that (afaik) the address can't be gossiped and no current client will be able to connect to you 07:00 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:00 -!- d1g1t [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has joined #lightning-dev 07:09 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:13 -!- d1g1t is now known as sandeep 07:21 -!- pm7 [pm7@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-blmtkyclxevbsfvu] has quit [Quit: ?egnam] 07:23 -!- pm7 [pm7@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-sfteyaoxsnvskbfb] has joined #lightning-dev 07:24 < provoostenator> I find BOLT-3 pretty hard to read. It could benefit from more detail. Other than the original Lightning paper from 2016, is there any good reading material to better understand these transaction types? https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/03-transactions.md 07:26 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:32 -!- quer [~quer@unaffiliated/quer] has quit [] 07:33 -!- quer [~quer@unaffiliated/quer] has joined #lightning-dev 07:46 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:47 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 07:53 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:06 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 08:08 -!- deb1 [~deb1@193.138.218.167] has joined #lightning-dev 08:12 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:15 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 08:15 < deb1> hello 08:16 -!- matsjj [~matsjj@p5089FF7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:16 < deb1> can i use lightning with bitcoin v 0.15.x ? 08:16 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:16 < deb1> without using btcd 08:16 < mlz> yes, just make sure it has ZMQ 08:16 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has quit [Quit: sandeep] 08:17 < deb1> thank you ! 08:17 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:17 < deb1> this is future! :D 08:29 < mlz> :D 08:31 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 08:32 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@92-111-70-106.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:38 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 08:54 < deb1> is there any tutorial for lightning-onion ? 09:05 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imrtpbsdfyctnfgq] has joined #lightning-dev 09:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 09:23 < buZz> cdecker: meh, order fulfillment seems not so good , ordered 7 stickers , got 2 :( 09:23 < buZz> i'll mail the store account 09:24 < cdecker> buZz, please do, we apparently had some mixups and we'll send you some extra 09:24 < buZz> cdecker: its the one mentioning a hackerspace inside it ;) 09:25 < buZz> shirtsize is the correct one though :) 09:30 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lightning-dev 09:31 < cdecker> I don't have access to the store's orders, but mailing the order number to store@blockstream.com will ping the right people 09:37 < buZz> should be fine ;) 09:43 -!- JSorel [~JSorel@207.96.226.25] has joined #lightning-dev 09:47 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:53 -!- jigawatt [2f2ae8cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.42.232.204] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:54 -!- JSorel [~JSorel@207.96.226.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:05 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 10:07 -!- riclas [~riclas@148.63.37.111] has joined #lightning-dev 10:08 -!- jigawatt [2f2ae8cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.42.232.204] has joined #lightning-dev 10:18 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lightning-dev 10:24 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@cpe-23-240-21-154.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 10:27 < jimpo> cdecker: I updated lightning-rfc PR #374. Does that address your comment? 10:27 < cdecker> jimpo, will need to check later once I'm back at my desk 10:27 < jimpo> kk 10:43 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:56 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lightning-dev 11:03 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:20 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@80.12.27.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:41 -!- wxss [~user@46-227-66-220.static.obenetwork.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:42 -!- wxss [~user@93.190.142.42] has joined #lightning-dev 11:46 -!- redstorm [cb56cc58@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.86.204.88] has joined #lightning-dev 11:54 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 12:01 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.220.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:03 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.211.44] has joined #lightning-dev 12:07 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.211.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:09 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.211.44] has joined #lightning-dev 12:11 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@80.12.27.240] has joined #lightning-dev 12:13 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.211.44] has quit [Client Quit] 12:13 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.211.44] has joined #lightning-dev 12:16 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:20 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.211.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.211.44] has joined #lightning-dev 12:23 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@80.12.27.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:24 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@80.12.27.240] has joined #lightning-dev 12:30 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lightning-dev 12:45 <+roasbeef> cjcj: there's a dev working on adding auto onion servies to lnd, we already have support for outbound: https://github.com/Roasbeef/lnd/blob/6f6f3e2050b2bfced282fab87cc97a21f09ebcb5/docs/configuring_tor.md (pending PR to add docs, PR also adds neutrino support for Tor) 12:46 <+roasbeef> provoostenator: sha3 doesn't need hmac to be safe as it isn't made on the merkle damgard construction, it uses something called sponge function instead 12:46 -!- vicenteH [~user@35.233.15.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 12:47 <+roasbeef> provoostenator: path finding algos should add "shadow routes" to avoid easy CLTV correlation, and also add a bit of jitter in terms of selection 12:47 <+roasbeef> deb1: what type of tut do you have in mind? 12:48 <+roasbeef> provoostenator: bolt 3 kinda assumes some familiarity with LN in general, which parts in particular do you think are hard to parse? 13:08 -!- blademccool [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #lightning-dev 13:20 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 13:21 -!- exnovo [~user@217.151.98.69] has joined #lightning-dev 13:28 < deb1> roasbeef, the basic 13:28 < deb1> how do i make it work 13:31 <+roasbeef> deb1: to use it as a lib for purposes other than lightning? every payment by default on LN atm uses the onion routing prootolc 13:43 < deb1> ahh i didn't know 13:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [] 13:59 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:d98b:b647:e8bb:7960] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:07 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lightning-dev 14:13 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lightning-dev 14:13 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:15 -!- exnovo [~user@217.151.98.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:30 -!- redstorm [cb56cc58@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.86.204.88] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:34 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 14:41 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 14:43 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 14:44 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 14:45 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-50.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:47 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:55 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:59 -!- Tulsene_ [uid52948@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kywidhcpdghimort] has joined #lightning-dev 15:06 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:11 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 15:21 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28 -!- quer [~quer@unaffiliated/quer] has quit [] 15:29 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@99-59-126-62.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:30 < jojeyh> hey to open a channel with the bitcoin testnet lightning faucet, i only need my node ID ? 15:32 < jojeyh> whoops nvm just saw the info at the top to connect first 15:38 < jojeyh> i keep getting a 'push amount is incorrect' under initial amount entry 15:38 < jojeyh> what am i doing wrong? 15:40 < jojeyh> ok i entered zero and it works 15:53 -!- GTHaxor [~GTHaxor@c-73-171-122-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #lightning-dev [] 15:54 -!- GTHaxor [~GTHaxor@c-73-171-122-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 16:07 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 16:11 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd581.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:15 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:d4e:6426:974b:5965] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:19 -!- wxss [~user@93.190.142.42] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:21 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@99-59-126-62.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:21 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 16:25 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 16:26 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@99-59-126-62.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 16:27 -!- aproc [~aproc@2605:6000:e503:8300:d0d1:d4e4:4c7d:9150] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:39 -!- aproc [~aproc@2605:6000:e503:8300:2828:d4f9:cb3f:f5fd] has joined #lightning-dev 16:40 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 17:01 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 17:11 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@99-59-126-62.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:35 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has joined #lightning-dev 17:41 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:45 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imrtpbsdfyctnfgq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:47 -!- whphhg_ [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lightning-dev 17:48 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:56 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:58 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:e90a:7ac3:15b5:4a1d] has joined #lightning-dev 18:13 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has joined #lightning-dev 18:21 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lightning-dev 18:27 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 18:28 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 18:29 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Client Quit] 18:29 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 18:33 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #lightning-dev 18:34 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tpodpocbiokuhvjo] has joined #lightning-dev 18:44 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:51 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 18:57 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lightning-dev 19:01 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:12 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lightning-dev 19:20 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lightning-dev 19:25 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:25 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:25 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:25 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 19:27 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:30 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:33 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [] 19:36 -!- riclas [~riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:47 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has joined #lightning-dev 20:11 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lightning-dev 20:16 <+roasbeef> jojeyh: yeh zero push amt is ok, you need to connect out to it first 20:23 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24 < jojeyh> roasbeef, is there no way to begin with some amount of satoshis on my end ? 20:28 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 20:29 <+roasbeef> jojeyh: that's what the push amount is for 20:29 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:30 < jojeyh> roasbeef, yeh i figured that but i couldn't get it to work for anything besides 0 20:30 < jojeyh> kept telling me 'wrong initial value' 20:31 <+roasbeef> it must be less than the total amount 20:31 <+roasbeef> so total amount 1mil push amt 500k would work 20:31 < jojeyh> yeah i had same with 50k 20:32 < jojeyh> i'll try it again later after i fix some stuff 20:32 < jojeyh> my peer with the faucet node is stuck on 'ONCHAIND_OUR_UNILATERAL' and keeps coming back after i restart the client 20:33 <+roasbeef> jojeyh: hmm that means that you force closed for w/e reason 20:33 <+roasbeef> well not you, but c-lightning did 20:34 < jojeyh> i force closed it 20:34 <+roasbeef> gotcha 20:34 < jojeyh> because i opened the channel with zero funds on my side 20:34 <+roasbeef> oh yeh atm you've gotta wait like 100 blocks if you force closed 20:34 <+roasbeef> then it'll accept new channels with the faucet again 20:34 < jojeyh> ay ok 20:34 < jojeyh> it was weird though because at a certain point 'listpeers' showed no peers 20:35 < jojeyh> but when i tried to reconnect to the faucet node client crashed 20:35 < jojeyh> it workd and then crashed 20:35 < jojeyh> and when i restarted the client the peer was back, in the UNILATERAL state 20:40 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:48 <+roasbeef> jojeyh: crashed with like a segfault? or just wouldn't connect? 20:51 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@host232-214-dynamic.251-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lightning-dev 20:51 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@host232-214-dynamic.251-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 20:51 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has joined #lightning-dev 20:53 < jojeyh> roasbeef, a seg fault program aborted 20:54 <+roasbeef> jojeyh: if you still have the crash.log you may want to open an issue with it, so they devs can fix it 20:56 < jojeyh> roasbeef, ok will the crash.log have updated since i restarted the app? 20:56 < jojeyh> not sure what happened with that last line lol 20:56 < jojeyh> the crash log is 10.000+ lines just include the whole thing? 21:41 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:55 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:55 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:55 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 22:01 -!- CryptoChronicus [44c9a31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.201.163.28] has joined #lightning-dev 22:03 < CryptoChronicus> hey guys. I have been trying to open a channel to Tokensoft (who sells the "Ride The Lightning" mugs over LN). I have multiple instances when i run listpeers with the Tokensoft peer ID. They all have state "OPENINGD" and have been like that for about a week. 22:07 < CryptoChronicus> if I try to do connect 0235447c7485ff2b945bac5fbc366d54a87389bab8cacf1b64b26ec01e96bd165a 34.236.113.58 9735, i get a ton of action in the debug log, with many channel updates received, followed by "ifnoring outdated update" or something to that effect 22:07 < CryptoChronicus> but the channel stays "connected": false and state "OPENINGD" 22:13 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lightning-dev 22:15 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tpodpocbiokuhvjo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:16 < ianthius> buZz: i also ordered a number of stickers and just got one of each type.. 22:17 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:19 < buZz> ianthius: send em an email :) 22:20 < ianthius> k 22:21 < ianthius> just wanted to let you know you weren't alone :) 22:22 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [] 22:42 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 22:43 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:54 -!- deb1 [~deb1@193.138.218.167] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@cpe-23-240-21-154.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:53 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has joined #lightning-dev 23:58 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]