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00:12 < melik> hey guys i'm using c-lightning 
00:13 < melik> if my node routes a payment, i should see it listed when i call 'listpayments' 
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03:59 < mlz> melik, why?
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16:27 < melik> mlz: i just want to know
16:27 < melik> if my LN node is acting as intermediate route for others 
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16:32 <+roasbeef> melik: there may be thousands tho 
16:33 < melik> thank you roasbeef
16:33 < melik> so i can't view them, i take it 
16:34 < melik>  how can i verify if i am collecting fees for routing payments through
16:35 <+roasbeef> melik: for lnd i have a patch coming out soon that extends the "feereport" command with earned fee info 
16:36 < melik> ah      
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16:37 < melik> cool, i take it c-lightning doesn't have a similar command yet 
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16:46 < melik> thanks roasbeef :) you are always quick to help
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17:09 < mlz> yay! LND IS DA BOMB! :D
17:10 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vABwK
17:10 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 4c8cb51 Rusty Russell: BOLT 2,3,5: always refer to shared/pubkey/private key....
17:10 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master c132855 Rusty Russell: Spelling list: add new words....
17:11 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vABwi
17:11 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 5fe7fc3 practicalswift: Change from "Encrypting Messages"/"Decrypting Messages" to "Encrypting and Sending Messages"/"Receiving and Decrypting Messages"...
17:12 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vABwX
17:12 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 316882f practicalswift: Use a vs an consistently
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17:30 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vABr2
17:30 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 124b1f8 Landon Mutch: BOLT 07: first pass copy edit to line 456...
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22:46 < jojeyh> what is the reason for requiring that funding txs be segwit ?
22:54 < mryandao> jojeyh: transaction mallaebility.
22:54 < aj> jojeyh: so that you can do the first commitment transaction that allows you to recover your funds prior to publishing the funding tx
22:55 < jojeyh> this is not possible with a legacy transaction ?
22:55 < aj> no, your counter party could change their signature, which would give a legacy tx a new txid making your commitment tx invalid
22:56 < jojeyh> aj, that makes sense, danke
22:56 < aj> np     
23:00 < CubicEarths> so tx #1 is created, then tx #2 is created (which references #1), and it is signed. Then, only once #2 is signed, is number #1 signed and broadcast. is that correct?
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23:06 < aj> CubicEarths: #1 is the funding tx, #2 is the initial commitment tx, yes
23:10 < CubicEarths> aj: yes.
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