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|.7...8.[....\B*.| 00000010 d8 10 a1 1d 62 aa af 36 7f ac 7e 10 65 cf 83 36 |....b..6..~.e..6| 00000020 40 f6 01 d7 9c fa b8 8d ab 48 ca af 24 7c ca 67 |@........H..$|.g| 00000030 c9 1b 0e 9c 1d a0 12 bc fd 5b 9d a9 f4 19 8d 30 |.........[.....0| }, ChainHash: (ch 03:13 < tester_> paying for yalls works fine... 03:20 < tester_> heres the full error i get from zap 03:20 < tester_> http://textuploader.com/dx58z 03:26 < tester_> hmm running "lncli.exe queryroutes 02f6725f9c1c40333b67faea92fd211c183050f28df32cac3f9d69685fe9665432 70000" crashes lnd with "panic: runtime error: index out of range" 03:28 < tester_> hmm running lncli.exe queryroutes --dest 02f6725f9c1c40333b67faea92fd211c183050f28df32cac3f9d69685fe9665432 --amt 70000 03:28 < tester_> i get 03:28 < tester_> 2018-02-23 12:27:22.856 [ERR] DISC: Router rejected channel edge: unable to fetch utxo for chan_id=556329793949073409, chan_point=b6b32a6a55f96cce5e2c5b8bd02bbf0a33bed0de8c16ba7118cdaa5fee2e1528:1: target output has been spent 2018-02-23 12:27:22.859 [ERR] DISC: Router rejected channel edge: unable to fetch utxo for chan_id=556569487509815296, chan_point=2d072aac0d9341143795a8b47fd68df21eca88fe28ac9ab4823d57055be84bf6:0: targe 03:33 -!- Deadlyelder is now known as kittykat 03:33 -!- kittykat is now known as kittykat2001 03:34 -!- dabura667_ [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:36 < rabidus> your line ends with "targe" 03:40 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:43 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxvacmrtaxjnnhbt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lightning-dev 03:48 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:51 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Read 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enough funds available... can someone please point me in the right direction so i can understand how fees work on lightning? 06:56 -!- Osso [~osso@162-225-190-212.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 06:57 < tester_> all i can find on google regarding feeinsufficient is this https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/lnwire/onion_error.go 06:57 < tester_> FailFeeInsufficient is returned if the HTLC does not pay sufficient fee, we tell them the amount of the incoming HTLC and the current channel setting for the outgoing channel. 07:05 < provoostenator> It would be nice if Recksplorer had a way to filter for recently seen nodes. 07:13 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has joined #lightning-dev 07:19 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:25 < mlz> sleepyark is a c-lightning node and if your node is a lnd node, they have trouble to connect to each other, when they have disagreement in fees, c-lightning would disconnect your lnd node 07:26 < mlz> i'm having the same issue on testnet and it's been like this, it's not new 07:26 < nirved> is the lightning spec considered complete? 07:27 < bitonic-cjp> I think it's considered incomplete. 07:27 < bitonic-cjp> Check out, for instance, the open issues on Github for lightning-rfc. 07:27 < nirved> so, one can expect there might be breaking changes in protocol? 07:29 < bitonic-cjp> Good question; I'm not sure. We'll probably always continue inventing new protocol changes, but a lot can be added in backward-compatible ways. 07:29 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:33 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-65-96-61-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 07:35 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@50-0-95-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lightning-dev 07:39 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lightning-dev 08:29 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.10] has joined #lightning-dev 08:30 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.10] has quit [Client Quit] 08:30 -!- deadlykitty [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:52 < tester_> i was already strongly suspecting it was because of lnd <-> c-lightning not playing nicely with each other, i was just hoping there was some kind of fix i could apply myself to fix the problem 08:53 < tester_> is there any way to pay a 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Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@2001:7e8:c957:2100:bd91:2e9a:fe53:7206] has joined #lightning-dev 14:28 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:31 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 14:39 -!- CompNsc [~compnsc@ip70-190-255-147.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:40 < CompNsc> Quick question. I want to set up a full node under ubuntu. What is a reasonable amount of ram and storage for such a machine? 14:48 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:49 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 14:50 < grubles> a full bitcoin node? 14:51 < CompNsc> I want to run a wallet on something other than Windoz. I gather that the full node on Ubuntu is the only choice. 14:56 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@2600:1010:b012:1dab:5585:3e29:2d3a:603c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56 < CompNsc> There is another question I guess. Perhaps I'm missing this. It seems like there is the alt-coin "Lightning Bitcoin" LBTC and the lightning netowrk. 14:57 < CompNsc> for bitcoin. These are two different things ? And if so, this channel is about the lightning netowrk, not LBTC? 14:58 < riclas> correct 14:58 < mlz> lol 14:58 < CompNsc> sorry about the confusion. thanks. Somewhat confusing names. 14:59 < riclas> maybe an @op could change the title of the channel to "bitcoin lightning network ..." to clear that up 14:59 < rusty> CompNsc: No accident on their part, I'm sure. 15:00 -!- mode/#lightning-dev [+o rusty] by ChanServ 15:00 < CompNsc> I've always been more a fan of the idea of the lightning network personally. 15:00 -!- rusty changed the topic of #lightning-dev to: Bitcoin Lightning Network Development: Be Excellent To Each Other! Logging at https://botbot.me/freenode/lightning-dev 15:01 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:04 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 15:04 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jfqtlsfqbpqnphmp] has joined #lightning-dev 15:05 -!- CompNsc [~compnsc@ip70-190-255-147.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #lightning-dev [] 15:05 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:07 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@2600:1010:b012:1dab:51ef:e02a:bba1:6810] has joined #lightning-dev 15:11 -!- aproc [~aproc@2605:6000:e503:8300:29b1:9378:3cff:759a] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:18 < grubles> oh hah he was talking about the altcoin? 15:20 -!- Ytxyyuu [~Ytxyyuu@78-71-46-150-no260.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:22 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has joined #lightning-dev 15:24 < mlz> i think it's some scam coin 15:24 -!- aproc [~aproc@2605:6000:e503:8300:6de0:2ae7:f9f1:d1f3] has joined #lightning-dev 15:24 < grubles> yeah definitely 15:29 < tester_> its a shitfork thats only traded as "future" on weird chinese markets (people that held coin on the exchanges got them i guess) where you cant deposit on any of the markets... theres dozens of these shitforks and i made some easy bitcoin splitting out like 7 different coins a couple weeks ago.... not sure if it still worth it since they tend to dump real hard 15:29 < tester_> more info https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinAirdrops/ and https://btcdiv.com/ and http://www.findmycoins.ninja/ 15:30 < grubles> yeah there's a freenode channel for them: #bitcoin-forks 15:30 < tester_> just always make sure to only use an empty seed if you wanna play with them, but i dont have to tell you that :P 15:30 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@2600:1010:b012:1dab:51ef:e02a:bba1:6810] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:31 < tester_> theres even a python script ymgve claimer script to sign transactions for like half a dozen of them so you dont have to download a dozen d dumbass chains 15:52 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-65-96-61-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:53 -!- amp__ [~amp@24.136.5.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:53 -!- amp__ [~amp@24.136.5.183] has joined #lightning-dev 15:53 -!- amp__ [~amp@24.136.5.183] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54 -!- Amperture [~amp@24.136.5.183] has joined #lightning-dev 15:57 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-61-148.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:58 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-153-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 16:09 -!- tester_ [d433923c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.51.146.60] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:41cc:8d6f:4e2b:2830] has joined #lightning-dev 16:30 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 16:35 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 16:52 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 16:53 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:54 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 17:00 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-153-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:05 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 17:08 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lightning-dev 17:11 < doxxy> Are lightningd addresses drawn from the bitcoind or something separate? 17:13 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@2001:7e8:c957:2100:bd91:2e9a:fe53:7206] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:17 -!- volition [~volition@27-33-177-17.tpgi.com.au] has joined #lightning-dev 17:33 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jfqtlsfqbpqnphmp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:33 -!- go1111111 [go1111111@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/go1111111] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:35 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 17:41 -!- go1111111 [go1111111@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/go1111111] has joined #lightning-dev 17:43 -!- Aliencorpse [~Aliencorp@2605:a601:b024:600:a070:70a:889f:e540] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:55 -!- Ytxyyuu [~Ytxyyuu@78-71-46-150-no260.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lightning-dev 17:56 -!- Aliencorpse [~Aliencorp@2605:a601:b024:600:79:92ea:424a:388e] has joined #lightning-dev 18:12 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqjbnafjwdizgrzp] has joined #lightning-dev 18:13 -!- meshcollider is now known as mesh_ 18:14 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqjbnafjwdizgrzp] has quit [Client Quit] 18:14 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fjrznvzqvcuoxzwj] has joined #lightning-dev 18:17 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:18 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:21 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has quit [] 18:56 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 19:14 < doxxy> Is there a way to specify a specific config file for lightningd? 19:22 < grubles> how do you mean 19:23 < grubles> you can create a config file in ~/.lightningd/config 19:23 < doxxy> I'm trying to have concurrent testnet and mainnet nodes 19:26 < doxxy> I tried segregating testnet to ~/.bitcoin/testnet/lightning (and put a config there) but, uh, yeah lightningd/lightningd --network=testnet --bitcoin-datatdir=~/.bitcoin/testnet --lightning-dir=~/.bitcoin/testnet/lightning told me to go fuck myself 19:28 <+roasbeef> doxxy: idk if that's possible for clightning atm (testnet and mainnet node on same machine) 19:31 < doxxy> well thats no fun 19:33 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:47 -!- douglas__ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:10 -!- tryphe_ [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 20:13 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:23 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:23 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:33 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 20:56 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-65-96-61-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:04 -!- tryphe_ is now known as tryphe 22:21 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:23 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 22:25 -!- Ytxyyuu [~Ytxyyuu@78-71-46-150-no260.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:52 -!- Ytxyyuu [~Ytxyyuu@78-71-46-150-no260.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lightning-dev 23:00 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@2601:647:cc00:8899:b84e:e48:2fa5:a689] has joined #lightning-dev 23:46 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]