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04:04 < deafboy> roasbeef: but the remote_balance is also zero. Usualy I can see the remote balance when closing the channel. Or does this apply only if I myself push some coins to the other side?
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04:34 < molz> deafboy, probably the coin already went to your counterparty's wallet? normally this would go away from 'pendingchannels' quickly
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11:23 <+roasbeef> deafboy: it's the case if you don't have any funds in teh channel, in this case we don't track it after close, ony our own 
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14:01 < BlueMatt> where does c-lightning get its fee estimates from? they appear to be different from bitcoind's fee estimator
14:02 < BlueMatt> right now on testnet showing a massive value (almost two orders of magnitude larger than estimatesmartfee 2 CONSERVATIVE, which should be about as high as you ever need to go)
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15:12 < molz> BlueMatt, i saw that too, so i did "lightning-cli dev-setfees 250 250 250", got the fee down to almost nothing 
15:12 < molz> btcd also has weirdly high fees on testnet
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16:01 < jb55> BlueMatt: I believe there was a change recently that added a moving average to avoid spiky fee estimates from bitcoind
16:03 < jb55> https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/1650
16:03 <+roasbeef> testnet is cray 
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19:37 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] yuntai opened pull request #461: use 'fail the channel' instead of 'reject the channel' (master...patch-1) https://git.io/fNVYF
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20:24 < Jbaczuk> someone asking about smart contracts on LN if you can help: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/77753/what-type-of-smart-contacts-will-be-available-on-lightning-network1
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