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I'm reading through the material again anyway now.. maybe I can un-confuse myself in the mean time :) - (sorry for wall of text) 11:10 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-076-176-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:11 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@079-170-138-109-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 11:11 -!- Shinobi20 [~Shinobi@95-27-138-32.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 11:11 -!- Shinobi20 [~Shinobi@95-27-138-32.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19 <+roasbeef> arubi: it would, it can't commit to the script, it just commits to "satisfiability" in a sense 11:20 <+roasbeef> arubi: yeh w/o no input, the sig doesn't need to commit to the pubkey, as the sighash commits to the entire script 11:20 <+roasbeef> w/ it, it no longer commits to the script, so it's kinda a "belt and suspenders" thing 11:20 < arubi> yea exactly, scriptpubkey is already in the input txid 11:21 < arubi> having scriptpubey committed to explicitly also enabled things like codeseparator, but yea nobody uses that 11:22 <+roasbeef> no input doesn't sign the input txid 11:22 <+roasbeef> well even then you sign the prev script 11:22 < arubi> right, I mean anything else but noiinput 11:22 <+roasbeef> w/o no input 11:22 <+roasbeef> yeh 11:22 <+roasbeef> so your q is answered? 11:23 < arubi> so schnorr as it is now is incompatible with eltoo? is that correct? 11:24 <+roasbeef> yes? it commits to the entire key 11:24 <+roasbeef> but also the specific vuln here is related to HD key usage and signing 11:24 <+roasbeef> so if it was a "one time key" it wouldn't apply 11:25 < arubi> right, yes. thanks a lot. 11:25 <+roasbeef> np 11:28 -!- Mercster10 [~Mercster@37.0.33.54] has joined #lightning-dev 11:29 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@2601:249:8280:1450:2d16:6cf7:1f8e:ce21] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. 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