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messages with address padding bytes, will it be relayed back out with the padding bytes in the same place (which is required for the signature to pass) 14:06 < BlueMatt> I ask cause I'd kinda like to remove the padding bytes, its useless to have them, essentially, and things would be simpler without them 14:07 < BlueMatt> obviously you can always append arbitrarily-high-type-byte addresses which will always be tacked on, so you can effectively always still pad at the end 14:07 <+roasbeef> BlueMatt: address padding for like ip addrs? 14:08 < BlueMatt> yea 14:08 < BlueMatt> as in the shit where you shove in 0-type-addresses in between other addresses arbitrarily 14:08 < BlueMatt> in NodeAnnouncements 14:08 <+roasbeef> is there padding? it's type based 14:09 < BlueMatt> yes, ips can be of type 1, 2, 3, 4 (with onions), or 0 14:09 < BlueMatt> 0 indicates "just keep reading" 14:09 < BlueMatt> but you have to re-include the padding in the same format when relaying 14:09 < BlueMatt> otherwise the signature wont verify 14:10 < BlueMatt> which, in other words, makes it essentially impossible to deserialize the message and store it in local structs 14:11 <+roasbeef> hmm don't think any of us do padding 14:11 < BlueMatt> c-lightning handles it correctly 14:11 < BlueMatt> because it (as far as I can skim) stores all the node_announcements in their originally-relayed byte-array form 14:15 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 14:16 <+roasbeef> ah yeh they have this distinct gossip store 14:16 <+roasbeef> we'll end up re-serializing 14:16 <+roasbeef> where's the padding specified tho? like how would it look on the wire? 14:16 < BlueMatt> The following address descriptor types are defined: 14:16 < BlueMatt> 0: padding; data = none (length 0) 14:16 <+roasbeef> it's length 0 (the zero type), you mean padding up to 65k? 14:16 < BlueMatt> MUST set signature to the signature of the double-SHA256 of the entire remaining packet after signature 14:16 <+roasbeef> how would you know how much padding there is tho? 14:17 < BlueMatt> when reading the address descriptors 14:17 < BlueMatt> they can be a type that indicates an ip/onion 14:17 < BlueMatt> or they can be type 0 14:17 < BlueMatt> if they are type 0 you keep reading, yo 14:17 < BlueMatt> I assume lnd properly handles at-end-padding on channel_update/channel_announcement/node_announcement, at least? 14:17 <+roasbeef> yeh we do that, but there's no explicit padding? you mean implicit based on the total length of the address? 14:17 < BlueMatt> cause you have to always keep around any extra data at the end 14:17 <+roasbeef> by padding you mean up to 65k? 14:18 < BlueMatt> there are two types of padding here - there's at-end-extra-data 14:18 < BlueMatt> which you can handle fine by storing any extra data at the end (including at the end of the list of addresses, up to the address length descriptor specified) 14:18 < BlueMatt> and also *within* the ip list 14:18 < BlueMatt> the ip list has an explicit length, and you always have to read up to that length 14:18 < BlueMatt> it also can have type-0 addresses 14:18 < BlueMatt> which represent padding 14:19 < BlueMatt> they are 0 length, but obviously are 1-byte-long because they have a byte for the type 14:19 < BlueMatt> which is 0 14:19 <+roasbeef> yeh dunno if i'd call that padding 14:19 < BlueMatt> well its referred to as padding 14:19 < BlueMatt> cause it lets you pad within the address array 14:19 < BlueMatt> so it is padding, just as entries 14:20 <+roasbeef> with a null entry kinda yeh 14:20 < BlueMatt> anyway, I'm proposing we remove those assuming lnd doesnt handle them correctly? 14:20 <+roasbeef> we handle it 14:20 < BlueMatt> cause if y'all reserialize they already wont propagate and they're dumb af 14:20 < BlueMatt> you store the null-entries? 14:20 <+roasbeef> yeh idk why that's in there even, this is a pretty old section 14:21 < BlueMatt> wait, so does lnd store the null-entries or no? 14:21 < BlueMatt> ie store-and-encode-them-when-reserializing 14:21 <+roasbeef> can check in a bit 14:22 -!- enemabandit [~enemaband@16.77.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has quit [] 14:24 < BlueMatt> does lnd also store-and-forward any extra data at the end of channel_update/channel_announcement/node_announcement? 14:24 < BlueMatt> obviously we cant remove that, just double-checking cause thats an easy bug to make 14:39 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] TheBlueMatt opened pull request #471: Remove padding within node_announcement address data (master...no-addr-padding) https://git.io/fAZSG 14:57 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:14 <+roasbeef> ah yeh we don't do that atm, so we'd chop off fields even if there were optional ones at the end 15:14 <+roasbeef> the parsing is correct, but when we go to insert into the db, we don't retain the version that we read in initially 15:14 <+roasbeef> in other areas where there're optional fields atm, we retain the in memory, like shutdown scripts or w/e 15:15 <+roasbeef> ofc makes sense that impls should in order to be able to still propagate messages that have optional fields and have their sigs still verify 15:15 <+roasbeef> hmmm 15:29 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@unaffiliated/michaelsdunn1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 15:36 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lightning-dev 15:43 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:43 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lightning-dev 15:44 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Client Quit] 15:44 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lightning-dev 15:47 -!- grubles 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