--- Day changed Mon Sep 10 2018 00:19 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@86.107.204.100] has joined #lightning-dev 00:27 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@86.107.204.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:41 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd686.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:05 -!- lndbot1 [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@2001:981:9573:1:7c5f:b0ff:fedb:9d2d] has joined #lightning-dev 01:05 -!- lndbot [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has joined #lightning-dev 01:26 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lightning-dev 02:17 -!- antanst [~antanst@62.169.219.213] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.6 - http://znc.in] 02:20 < wumpus> how do I prevent clightning from making *any* outgoing connections? I tried commenting out activate_peers(ld); in lightningd.c, but it still manages to connect to peers 02:25 -!- mauz555 [~jimmy@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8491:ebd5:4f3d:14e0] has joined #lightning-dev 02:29 < wumpus> (apparently that did work, but there were some zombie channeld proceses around from a previous run) 02:31 -!- mauz555 [~jimmy@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8491:ebd5:4f3d:14e0] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:34 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:13 -!- melvin_ [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 03:18 * wumpus really doesn't undestand this ping issue :( 03:30 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has joined #lightning-dev 03:37 < wumpus> kill -USR1 to enable io logging seems to not work either 03:46 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 03:47 -!- aschildbach [~aschildba@x4db48248.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lightning-dev 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Also is there a 16:44 < BlockchainBilly> any way to have an invoice that can be paid to multiple times? 16:49 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-077-052-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 17:00 -!- grubles [~grubles@gateway/tor-sasl/grubles] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01 -!- grubles [~grubles@gateway/tor-sasl/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 17:05 < lndbot> There is Sphinx send, but that is not yet implemented 17:05 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05 < lndbot> To be very literal, all you need is a hash and a pubkey 17:06 < lndbot> You cannot securely send to the same invoice or hash multiple times 17:08 -!- grubles [~grubles@gateway/tor-sasl/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:09 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 17:15 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 17:20 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:33 -!- grubles [~grubles@gateway/tor-sasl/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 17:34 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 17:43 -!- un1c0d3r [~nico@r186-50-189-144.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lightning-dev 17:57 < BlockchainBilly> Thanks Alex, I was thinking the payment hash had invoice details in it. I'll have to do more digging to see exactly what is a payment hash. 18:00 < lndbot> The payment hash is the hash of a preimage 18:00 < lndbot> The invoice encodes the hash in it, plus more information 18:17 < BlockchainBilly> Ah okay that's simpler than I thought. 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