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and your program talks to that daemon? 04:46 < ysangkok> obviously the rpc method would depend on the lightning implementation 04:46 < ysangkok> if you use lnd, you can use the gRPC bindings google provide 04:49 < jpe> I think the answer is LND 04:49 < jpe> you would need neutrino as well 04:57 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@62.112.9.237] has joined #lightning-dev 05:00 -!- ott0disk [~smuxi@cd.85.7a9f.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #lightning-dev 05:03 -!- grubles [~grubles@gateway/tor-sasl/grubles] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:05 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:05 -!- grubles [~grubles@gateway/tor-sasl/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 05:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:08 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@62.112.9.237] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 05:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 05:09 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 05:10 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lightning-dev 05:16 -!- RubenSomsen [uid301948@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibeexnmcgodgyroi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:25 -!- mauz555 [~jimmy@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:bc8a:c1ad:2e2d:63b4] has joined #lightning-dev 05:33 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:34 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 05:35 -!- Druid [~Druid@200.71.91.210] has joined #lightning-dev 05:35 -!- Druid is now known as Guest95221 05:35 -!- Guest95221 [~Druid@200.71.91.210] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:44 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:45 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 05:45 -!- ott0disk [~smuxi@cd.85.7a9f.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:50 -!- YSqTU2XbB [~smuxi@e7.85.7a9f.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #lightning-dev 05:55 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-156-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:57 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04 -!- YSqTU2XbB is now known as ott0disk 06:05 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:07 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 06:13 < queip> jpe does LND work on windows, mac? 06:14 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 06:14 -!- jouke_ [~jouke@a80-100-203-151.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Changing host] 06:14 -!- jouke_ [~jouke@unaffiliated/komkommer] has joined #lightning-dev 06:14 < mol> queip, yes 06:15 < mol> only c-lightning doesn't work on windows that i know of 06:16 < queip> mol: but LND does not support microsatoshi, does it? 06:16 < mol> yes it does, it can pay, just can't create invoices in msat yet 06:19 < queip> mol: will it soon? 06:20 < mol> idk, msat is not used anywhere though, only with c-lightning on LN 06:21 < mol> i mean, lnd does it msat to calculate fees, but that's it 06:21 < queip> too bad LND doesn't support debian stable 06:21 < mol> and when you go to onchain msat is not used, has to be converted 06:21 < queip> mol: sure 06:21 < queip> still microsatoshi is cool 06:21 < mol> maybe don't use debian? 06:21 < queip> mol: nah. it's important use case 06:22 < queip> it's neglecting to not support it. only excuse is that LND itsefl is in beta 06:22 < mol> im not sure if it's lnd's problem or rather it's debian's problem 06:27 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:28 < ott0disk> Hey is anyone publishing data about routed payments? I think it would be nice to have a feeling of how many payments per day are being done. 06:28 < ott0disk> Although i know that nodes can just keep this data for themselves and even publish fake data 06:29 < queip> mol: it requires very new golang 06:31 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:32 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 06:38 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@62.112.9.237] has joined #lightning-dev 06:39 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@62.112.9.237] has quit [Client Quit] 06:46 -!- ott0disk [~smuxi@e7.85.7a9f.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:47 < mol> queip, "very new golang"? 06:48 < queip> mol: version more recent than in debian stable 06:48 < mol> most of us are running the latest go 06:49 < queip> debian stable is popular on servers 06:49 < mol> no clue 06:50 < mol> lnd isn't responsible for debian's lack of updates or whatever, but anyway i think we're offtopic here 06:56 < queip> mol: debian is updated 06:56 < queip> just, not to omg most recent bleeding edge software 06:56 < queip> imo a good attitude in financial software 07:02 < jouke_> Or build somewhere else. 07:03 -!- freannrak [~ar@188.166.55.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:25 -!- YSqTU2XbB [~smuxi@d3.85.7a9f.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #lightning-dev 07:29 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@unaffiliated/michaelsdunn1] has joined #lightning-dev 07:32 -!- YSqTU2XbB [~smuxi@d3.85.7a9f.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:33 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:34 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@unaffiliated/michaelsdunn1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:36 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 07:38 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@38.126.31.226] has joined #lightning-dev 07:38 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@38.126.31.226] has quit 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