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[~michaelsd@unaffiliated/michaelsdunn1] has joined #lightning-dev 13:51 < niftynei> justin my understanding is that `htlc_maximum_msat` was added to the spect to give light-clients an upper bound for doing route calculations. it's really only useful if you don't already have the total channel balance handy 13:56 <+roasbeef> even ignorign light clients, it's useful as it lets you cut down the search space when routing 13:56 <+roasbeef> in the start, ppl may set it to the size of the channel, but it should be in line with the max htlc you'll accept which is signalled on the link level 13:56 <+roasbeef> also for amp routing, you can cut down many flows and plan ahead if you know the max value that you can transit over that link in a single htlc 14:10 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 14:15 -!- llou [~textual@cm-83-97-182-195.telecable.es] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 14:16 -!- llou [~textual@cm-83-97-182-195.telecable.es] 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that won't be exposed, it's something under the scenes, it's a path finding thing 15:34 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 15:40 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@unaffiliated/michaelsdunn1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:02 < niftynei> molz why do you say to avoid c-lightning then? the current implementation of `htlc_maximum_msat` leaks no new information (it's roughly tied to the channel funds, which is already public knowledge) 16:17 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 16:18 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f109c7a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:24 < molz> niftynei, since i don't know the code, if it's already a public knowledge, why do we need your code? 16:25 -!- conman 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