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05:01 < cdecker> Ok, strange, I assuming it's LND due to the 144 CLTV delta it was announcing
05:02 < cdecker> Oh wait 0x0a == 10
05:02 < cdecker> So this is PERM|10
05:02  * cdecker doesn't know how to convert hex to decimal...
05:03 < cdecker> So this is `unknown_next_peer` and all is good
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06:23 < Chris_Stewart_5> Are we suppose to round the 'pico' unit to msat the same way we round to satoshis?
06:24 < Chris_Stewart_5> AFAICT, all of the lightning implementations expect msat on their rpcs, not pico units
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06:36 < Chris_Stewart_5> also, why is that the case? Why not just use the pico unit?
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14:44 < Chris_Stewart_5> Why doesn't BOLT11 just use msat? 
14:44 < molz> too many numbers! :P lol
14:45 < Chris_Stewart_5> molz: I've spent the better part of the day distinguishing the difference between msat and the "pico" unit on BOLT11 :-( 
14:46 < Chris_Stewart_5> Very confusing, since pico = 1/10^-1 msat 
14:46 < molz> lol 
14:47 < molz> did you see my request to rusty on getting rid of msat?
14:47 < Chris_Stewart_5> i.e. if you generate an invoice for 1 msat, you get the prefix '10p'
14:47 < Chris_Stewart_5> no, where is that?
14:47 < molz> rusty: DENIED, DENIED, DENIED
14:47 < molz> in the other channel :)
14:47 < Chris_Stewart_5> what other channel?
14:50 < molz> #c-lightning
14:52 < molz> Chris_Stewart_5, why do you want pico?
14:54 < Chris_Stewart_5> i'm working on a library for basic ln wallet functionality: https://github.com/bitcoin-s/bitcoin-s-core/pull/226
14:54 < Chris_Stewart_5> ^ that is the PR for `MilliSatoshi`, and PicoBitcoins. 
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14:55 < Chris_Stewart_5> but I think i am confusing myself with the math, a satoshi = 10^-9, and a msat should be 10^-12 right? 
14:56 < Chris_Stewart_5> ah! A satoshi is 10^-8 (face palm), that makes sense. 
14:57 < Chris_Stewart_5> therefore msat = 10^-11 
14:57 < molz> yea
14:58 < Chris_Stewart_5> One of those days I guess :-) 
14:58 < molz> there's some info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico-
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