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That's great 11:17 < ianthius> roasbeef: the current LND implemenation of Spontaneous payments, it uses the public id of the node you want to pay, mechanically does it essentially request an invoice from the node under the covers, or is it actually sending a transaction without first notifying the reciever? 11:27 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@cpc139350-aztw33-2-0-cust310.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:35 -!- user__ [~user@185.236.201.131] has joined #lightning-dev 11:37 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@cpc139350-aztw33-2-0-cust310.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lightning-dev 11:38 -!- m8tion_ [~user@185.236.201.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:38 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@cpe-172-116-160-42.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 11:43 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@cpe-172-116-160-42.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:44 -!- m8tion_ [~user@185.236.201.131] has joined #lightning-dev 11:46 -!- user__ [~user@185.236.201.131] 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