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timeout: 250 seconds] 12:49 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@72.253.78.130] has joined #lightning-dev 12:59 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 13:01 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@72.253.78.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:11 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@x5f7347c2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lightning-dev 13:11 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f7347c2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:20 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@72.253.78.130] has joined #lightning-dev 13:24 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@72.253.78.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f7347c2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lightning-dev 13:25 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@x5f7347c2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:33 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:3ca6:9fb9:2e23:4e12] has quit [Killed (adams.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:33 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:d8e0:7ba8:1a4f:3966] has joined #lightning-dev 14:50 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has joined #lightning-dev 14:55 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:07 < rachelfish> @AlexBosworth what are "reliable payments"? 15:07 < rachelfish> And why were they removed from 0.6.0? 15:20 -!- esotericnonsense [~esotericn@unaffiliated/esotericnonsense] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:27 -!- esotericnonsense [~esotericn@unaffiliated/esotericnonsense] has joined #lightning-dev 15:45 -!- marijnfs__ [~marijnfs@x5f7347c2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lightning-dev 15:45 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f7347c2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:58 -!- marijnfs__ [~marijnfs@x5f7347c2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04 < lndbot> You can see related issues on the lnd github 16:04 < bitconner> rachelfish, reliable payments is referring to idempotency of rpc interface for payinvoice/sendpayment 16:05 < lndbot> Hmm I guess I don’t see the label now 16:07 < lndbot> lnd 0.6.0 already has a lot of features, the issues removed from the milestone aren’t removed from development, they are just aren’t ready to be in the current release 17:00 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has joined #lightning-dev 17:03 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #lightning-dev 17:04 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:06 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 17:08 -!- riclas [~riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:19 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has joined #lightning-dev 17:25 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:37 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@93-39-86-79.ip75.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lightning-dev 17:40 < ariard> hey which are the current testnet ln DNS seeds ? 18:06 -!- unixb0y [~unixb0y@p5B02995A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:06 < rachelfish> bitconner: Can you explain what that means? I just looked up the "reliable payments" pull requests on github and it looks like they are intended to allow lnd to persist its state if it gets restarted while a transaction is in flight on the network 18:08 < bitconner> rachelfish, right now if you make a payment and restart lnd, they payment may come back as settled after coming back up. atm there's no way to receive that event via rpc. this change will allow you have those events across restarts 18:08 -!- unixb0y [~unixb0y@p5B029931.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lightning-dev 18:12 < lndbot> through the async rpc? 18:13 < lndbot> or a new subscription rpc? I’m very interested on such functionality :P 18:13 < bitconner> joaoalmeida, through any of the payment rpcs 18:13 < lndbot> Nice 18:13 < lndbot> This is definitely something needed :slightly_smiling_face: 18:13 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 < bitconner> final flow would allow you to attempt the same payment again after restart, lnd detects the payment is already happening, and then proxy any updates back over rpc 18:14 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has joined #lightning-dev 18:14 < lndbot> I see, you’re talking about the “payment is in transaction” state 18:15 < bitconner> yep, you can detect it in a hacky way via that error message, but this will take care of it natively 18:15 < lndbot> What’s the easiest way to track the payment timelock ( in case it gets stuck? ). Right now I’m doing it via listchannels but probably not the best way 18:16 < lndbot> Yeah, that’s what I’m currently doing right now, kinda hacky 18:16 < bitconner> heh, probably as you say, looking at the pending htlcs 18:17 < lndbot> Exactly, right now I’m watching pending htlcs 18:18 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:8a1:3a69:62f1:b4e9] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:19 < lndbot> I might move to the async payment call soon, is it reliable ? .) 18:19 < lndbot> Right now I’m handling myself through sync one, but if it’s reliable, i see no reason to move over 18:19 < bitconner> they're equivalent in terms of reliablity in this context, the issue exists at a deeper level of lnd 18:20 < lndbot> Talking about this specific case yes 18:21 < lndbot> But for instance, if I loose the grpc connection to the node (and lets say it did not shutdown), I lose the payment state 18:21 < lndbot> does that happen on the async call as well ? 18:21 < lndbot> That’s one cool thing you guys added to the invoices, the settled index and stuff 18:21 < lndbot> Allows you to easily pick up 18:22 < lndbot> (I can obviously try/test this myself, just wondering if you knew the behaviour right on top of your head) 19:27 -!- jhk_ [~AbuseOfNo@89.238.150.43] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27 -!- AbuseOfNotation [~AbuseOfNo@89.238.150.43] has joined #lightning-dev 19:27 -!- AbuseOfNotation [~AbuseOfNo@89.238.150.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 22:29 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:46 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@93-39-86-79.ip75.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:47 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@175.45.54.238] has joined #lightning-dev 22:50 < niftynei> hello. i made some updates to the tool that creates "csv's" directly from the RFC's to incorporate the new format of messages that the dual-funding proposal adds (subtypes + tlvs) 22:50 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #lightning-dev 22:51 < niftynei> i'm not sure if anyone other than c-lightning makes use of it. anyway it's up here https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/pull/597 22:59 -!- ccdle12_ [~ccdle12@175.45.54.238] has joined #lightning-dev 22:59 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@175.45.54.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@host109-135-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lightning-dev 23:02 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Wed Apr 10 00:00:42 2019