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02:44 < cdecker> aj: yep, sorry for not replying yet, the LNConf is keeping me on my feet :-)
02:44 < cdecker> aj: will finish reading and reply today ^^
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02:49 < cdecker> One thing that I'm wondering is whether adding the new hash_types (not defined in bip-taproot) wouldn't fail the signature verification mentioned in bip-taproot? 
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02:50 < cdecker> Is that covered by the key version bump?
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02:52 < cdecker> The other difference I see is related to the hashing: bip118 was blanking the elements that we don't want to commit to, but still adding them into the hash, your revision mentions not including the hash, does that mean we just don't update on those elements instead of passing in blanks of the same size?
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02:56 < aj> cdecker: yep figured, just wanted to make sure it wasn't get spam filtered or anything
02:58 < aj> cdecker: bip-taproot only specifies key path signature verification, so shouldn't be possible for anything in that to fail
02:58 < cdecker> Oh, missed that detail, thanks for clarifying
02:59 < cdecker> It's getting hard to keep the contexts in mind when reading these things xD
02:59 < aj> cdecker: the key version bump uses the "unknown pubkey" path in bip-tapscript, so bip-tapscript doesn't do any validation (beyond assuming empty signature means a failing checksig) so we can make all the rules
02:59 < aj> cdecker: haha, it's always been hard :)
03:00 < cdecker> Awesome, that sounds like it can be deployed easily
03:00 < aj> "we just don't update on those elements" -- update the sha256 state when computing the digest? yeah i think that's right
03:01 < cdecker> Yeah, ok, that's a few computations fewer than my blank but still add :+1:
03:01 < aj> i think sipa might be changing how the digest is specified to be more unambiguous which might improve things, https://github.com/sipa/bips/issues/99
03:03 < cdecker> Hm, need to dig a bit deeper into that side of things :-)
03:06 < aj> cdecker: we're thinking about running a "taproot bip review" thing over nov-dec btw, which might be a good way for lightning peeps to get a more in depth look into things;  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G48-yhZMLLMZW68Bq59h_FBi__pwFKoWKF1D385I38Y/edit# has some thoughts on how it might work
03:07 < cdecker> Ok, got to go back to the talks, but thanks for the work you put into bip118, it looks great I think
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03:07 < aj> enjoy the conf, i'm following the tweets :)
03:07 < cdecker> Yep, will look into it, hoping to get some more depth on taproot as well
03:07 < cdecker> +1 617-852-0635 ~nitraM
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09:15 < jb55> ^ lul
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