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[~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59 < darosior> fiatjaf: yes 14:00 < darosior> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/05-onchain.md#failing-a-channel 14:09 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 14:10 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 14:11 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 14:11 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19 < fiatjaf> wow 14:20 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 14:24 < lndbot> I was just thinking... Would it make sense to integrate something like favicon into the bolt standard so that merchants can set an icon which can be shown in the payment history of the user wallet? Wouldnt that be a nice plus in terms of UX? 14:28 -!- luigi_ [~luigi@ip68-228-80-222.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:44 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #lightning-dev 14:45 < lndbot> How would the image data be transfered? 14:50 < fiatjaf> tigeerix, wallets could parse the node alias for a domain name and try to fetch domain.name/favicon.ico from there 14:51 < fiatjaf> that could evolve into a standard 14:51 < fiatjaf> try suggesting that to your favorite wallet 14:54 <+roasbeef> fiatjaf: not always, that fail langauge is prob too aggressive, in many instances you should simply reconnect, otherwise you force close for small things like getting tickled 14:54 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:07 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 15:08 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 15:08 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 15:09 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 15:10 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 15:11 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has joined #lightning-dev 15:12 -!- nobody123 [~nobody123@152.89.163.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has joined #lightning-dev 15:18 -!- electric-sheep[m [electric-s@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yhfeklnqhnvnvthi] has joined #lightning-dev 15:25 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has quit [Quit: Scaling pentatonically] 15:26 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has joined #lightning-dev 15:28 -!- electric-sheep[m [electric-s@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yhfeklnqhnvnvthi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:36 -!- electric-sheep[m [electric-s@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-grgltyetnmpqhkvr] has joined #lightning-dev 15:47 -!- marcoagner [~user@2001:8a0:6a5f:5700:7bb3:6296:d274:7295] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:51 -!- diogosergio [~diogoserg@97e70fc0.skybroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:55 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #lightning-dev 15:55 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 16:01 -!- aj [aj@cerulean.erisian.com.au] has joined #lightning-dev 16:16 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e35:8aba:8220:6627:dad:d967:649d] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:17 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 16:23 < fiatjaf> roasbeef, so maybe when the spec says "fail" one implementation may interpret as "close" but other "reconnect"? 16:32 -!- arshbo3000 [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 16:33 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #lightning-dev 16:36 <+roasbeef> fiatjaf: yep, everyone lies on a spectrum, i'd say lnd is prob the most lax while c-lightning is the most strict 16:37 -!- TheFuzzStone[m] [thefuzzsto@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mydscrxvgmacwusp] has joined #lightning-dev 16:37 -!- DavidMitchell[m] [davidfedii@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lnyvsfuluhmnppdc] has joined #lightning-dev 16:37 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lawnxcyyizdjzrdg] has joined #lightning-dev 16:37 -!- JoKe[m] [jokesharek@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bdhumzbonjixzxrz] has joined #lightning-dev 16:38 < fiatjaf> great. thank you very much for clarifying that. 16:39 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:41 -!- arshbot [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has quit [Quit: Scaling pentatonically] 17:04 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has joined #lightning-dev 17:08 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #lightning-dev 17:24 -!- luigi_ [~luigi@ip68-228-80-222.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has quit [Quit: Scaling pentatonically] 17:46 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:47 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-221-137.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 17:47 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 17:52 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:56 -!- arshbo3000 [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59 -!- lukedashjr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 17:59 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:02 -!- arshbot [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:05 -!- lukedashjr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:09 -!- arshbot [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:12 -!- arshbot [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:14 < lndbot> putting a dependency on the web/urls is maybe not ideal 18:15 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.233] has joined #lightning-dev 18:15 < lndbot> @fiatjaf Sounds good to me! 18:15 -!- arshbot [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:17 < lndbot> What would you suggest instead? 18:17 < fiatjaf> tigeerix, https://twitter.com/MuunWallet/status/1186738141731983361?s=19 18:17 -!- arshbot [~arshbot@99-23-136-47.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:17 < lndbot> Yeah that post was inspiring me... 18:20 < lndbot> wallet providers could put in logos related to public keys 18:25 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:29 < lndbot> You mean like Joule is doing? But then you wouldn't have a logo which is looking like the brand / websites favicon. 18:31 < lndbot> Well the wallet provider could use the favicon 18:32 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:49 < lndbot> But how could he do so programmatically? Or should every wallet provider create a database manually adding favicons for each node key? 18:55 < lndbot> Yeah or crowd source it 18:55 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #lightning-dev 19:07 -!- ysangkok [janus@hapy.0x90.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:48 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 19:49 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 20:06 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:12 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 20:22 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:36 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@108-91-143-73.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 20:36 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@108-91-143-73.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:15 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48 -!- diogosergio [~diogoserg@97e70fc0.skybroadband.com] has joined #lightning-dev 21:52 -!- diogosergio [~diogoserg@97e70fc0.skybroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09 < lndbot> That makes a lot of sense. Would be down to make a repo that's just a json file that people can PR their nodes to. Maybe require a signature proof of ownership from the pr creator. I would integrate that into Joule. 22:13 -!- ggggggggg [4750a4cc@71-80-164-204.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 22:14 -!- ggggggggg [4750a4cc@71-80-164-204.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 22:43 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 22:58 -!- alko89 [~alko@cpe-85-10-28-138.static.amis.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:00 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:24 -!- laptop500 [~laptop@194.33.98.165] has joined #lightning-dev 23:32 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:50 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e35:8aba:8220:6627:dad:d967:649d] has joined #lightning-dev --- Log closed Wed Oct 23 00:00:44 2019