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Depending on fees omitting may be less expensive than trying to grab that output. 03:43 < cdecker> The alternative of allowing a node to dip into the reserve to drain it is not safe, and adds yet another exception to the protocol 03:44 < cdecker> Caveat: only the funder is currently incentivized to omit since he's the one paying the fees 03:45 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 03:47 -!- petewinn [~petewinn@203.161.74.17.static.amnet.net.au] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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