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14:42 < notplato> What is the best way to establish proof that a party requesting the product for which a LN payment was made is the party that made the payment?
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15:43 < riclas> that's the same question as for btc. you trust the person, or have a system to identify him
15:43 < riclas> (in delivering a real world product, if i  understood the question)
15:49 < ghost43> if he has knowledge of both the invoice and the payment preimage, then apart from you, it is most likely the guy who paid
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16:13 < notplato> riclas If a person made a BTC payment, then they can prove that at least they contributed to the payment by signing anything with one of the private keys of the inputs.
16:17 < riclas> that only shows you that the person who paid you is still in control of the same keys
16:17 < riclas> as ghost said, same with invoice and prei
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16:48 < notplato> ghost43 that makes sense but requires that payers hold on to the invoices they paid to prove they paid them.  They already have a node id, and can use the private key behind it to sign something and then they don't have to keep anything.  I just found out there's a `payment_secret` being added to BOLT11, but the plan...
16:49 < notplato> ... is to have the payer send that secret along with the payment.  It would be better for them to send a signature of that secret and their public key instead.
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