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That's of course with the exception of data loss, which can cause channels to be closed and potentially lose funds (never just restore a backup if you're not absolutely sure that there were no changes inbetween). 03:35 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Quit: __gotcha] 03:35 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 03:52 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 03:53 < _0x0ff> cdecker: if you put your node down for maintenance (lets say for 6 hours) and some change occurs to the channels, how do you make sure you are back in-sync with your node? 03:54 < _0x0ff> or no changes can occur during the time your node is offline? Although the other side could force close the channel and your node could think it still has a channel opened? 03:59 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:00 < lndbot> no channel updates can happen while your node is down. if the other node force-closes then your node will see the commitment TX on chain or in the mempool and will know the channel has been closed 04:03 < _0x0ff> ok, makes sense. Thank you 04:07 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 04:12 -!- __gotcha1 [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 04:13 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:13 -!- __gotcha1 is now known as __gotcha 04:15 < cdecker> The important thing is to not stay offline for too long (HTLC timeouts and commitment timeouts are in the order of days by default), though even this can be partially addressed through watchtowers 04:15 < cdecker> If your node is offline for longer periods at a time it might be worth looking into adjusting those timeouts for your own use-case 04:38 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:54 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 04:54 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 05:18 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 05:20 -!- 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