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06:59 < ThomasV> should channel_reestablish not be sent before funding_locked? 
07:00 < ThomasV> lnd does not seem to send it before
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07:37 < t-bast> there's no need for channel_reestablish before funding_locked, because you can't have updated your commit tx before funding_locked
07:38 < t-bast> let me double-check, I think we discussed something like that somewhat recently
07:39 < ThomasV> the bolt does not mention that explicitly, although it makes sense
07:43 < t-bast> you can send it though, it doesn't hurt and it tells your peer you're ready to make progress on that channel as soon as the funding tx is confirmed
07:43 < t-bast> eclair does send it on reconnect if you got to the point where the funding tx was broadcast
07:44 < t-bast> then we wait for funding_locked to mark the channel as usable
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07:46 < t-bast> actually the spec even says that `upon reconnection, a node MUST transmit channel_reestablish for each channel`
07:46 < t-bast> so if lnd doesn't send it it may be a bug, it's worth checking up on that with them
07:47 < t-bast> (for channels that reached the point where funding signatures were exchanged)
07:53 < ThomasV> yeah, that's how I read the bolt
07:54 < ThomasV> the issue is that we have a timeout if we don't receive channel_reestablish after sending it
07:54 < ThomasV> I guess I should change that
07:56 < t-bast> yeah I don't think that timeout is very useful for channel_reestablish, it makes sense to have a timeout when you're sending a commit_sig or revoke_and_ack and expect the remote node to follow through, but for most other channel messages it's probably not necessary
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10:25 < cdecker> Yep, we have workarounds for some of the ordering issues that lnd has as well (look for the lnd-compat tag on our issue tracker)
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12:49 <+roasbeef> lnd used to have a chan reest timeout too, but we ended up removing it, as it could make connections unstable if the remote peer was slow for w/e reason (running valgrind, small machine, etc) 
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