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[Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:01 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:04 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:19 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:23 -!- Relis [~Relis@cpc96290-lewi18-2-0-cust910.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:26 < ja> belcher: did you see this post? https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2016-January/000408.html 08:28 < belcher> i didnt see ty 08:30 < ja> belcher: also, there is a section in Deployable Lightning: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/blob/master/doc/deployable-lightning.lyx#L684 08:31 < belcher> ah, yes there it is 08:31 < belcher> and the reason given is efficiency as i thought 08:31 < belcher> which makes sense, theres no benefit to using privkey handover for LN, its just more expensive 08:32 < belcher> i noticed in the original LN paper privkey handover is mentioned but when joseph and tadge are giving talks a few months later they seem to only talk about hash locks 08:34 < ja> which talk are you referring to? https://lightning.network/lightning-network-presentation-time-2015-07-06.pdf ? 08:35 < belcher> yes that one (although i havent watched it in years) 08:38 < ja> that url is 10 days before the commit where deployable lightning was added to c-lightning 08:38 < ja> but when Deployable Lightning was added it had maybe already been completed for some time? 08:39 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 08:44 -!- marcoagner [~user@bl13-226-166.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 08:46 -!- CCR5-D32 [~CCR5@unaffiliated/ccr5-d32] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 08:48 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:58 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 09:18 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Remote host closed the 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