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[~proofofke@71-218-146-180.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:35 < fiatjaf1> what is static_remotekey, in a nutshell? 12:38 < lndbot> if the remote node force closes, your part of the funds go to an address in your wallet. without that feature, the key your funds go to is tweaked with a secret that you need to remember. so if you lost your channel DB you relied on the remote node to give you the secret. with static_remotekey you can just sweep without any interaction with the remote node (but only if they force close) 12:42 < fiatjaf1> so we don't need the static channels backup file? 12:43 < lndbot> we still need it because it contains the remote node pubkey and IP address. if you restore you ask them to force close. otherwise you have to wait for them to do so 12:44 < lndbot> the file also contains all derivation information you need to sweep the funds 12:44 < fiatjaf1> which percentage of nodes support static_remotekey? 12:45 < lndbot> no idea. it also only applies to new channels so the number is probably not very big yet 12:46 < fiatjaf1> wait, but what is that derivation information? 12:47 < lndbot> the derivation path for the private key. can be "brute forced" in worst case, if you have the seed 12:49 < fiatjaf1> thank you! 12:50 < th0th> anybody know if it's possible to get a preimage with the cli on clightning? 12:51 < ja> th0th: you should ask in #c-lightning 13:00 < th0th> thanks 13:05 -!- __gotcha1 [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 13:07 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:07 -!- __gotcha1 is now known as __gotcha 13:32 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33 -!- Pavlenex [~Thunderbi@141.98.103.251] has quit [Quit: Pavlenex] 14:00 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:16 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 14:29 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 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