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07:45 < lndbot> <ahmetkurt95> you said `accept_channel` contains the 2-of-2 pubkey peer wants to use for the channel. are you sure this is not defined in `open_channel` ?
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09:01 < lndbot> <ahmetkurt95> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/02-peer-protocol.md#the-open_channel-message
09:02 < lndbot> <ahmetkurt95> as far as I understand from the link, `funding_pubkey` is already determined before sending `open_channel` ?
09:02 < lndbot> <ahmetkurt95> wondering how is it derived too
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13:21 < lndbot> <ahmetkurt95> anyone? :thinking_face:
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15:51 <+roasbeef> jeremyrubin: chris belcher had some ideas about integrating channels into a new form of p2pool, iirc there was/is an IRC channel for it also 
15:51 <+roasbeef> ahmetkurt95: can be derived via any means, most nodes derive it from some shared seed 
15:52 < jeremyrubin> Yes I've also been writing about this for a while with CTV!
15:53 < jeremyrubin> https://utxos.org/uses/miningpools/
15:53 < jeremyrubin> but you can make the payout program be non-interactive channel opens also a la ctv
15:56 < jeremyrubin> I think this stuff could be super dope; I just only realized recently that you could make the channel opens without CTV which is cool too
15:56 < jeremyrubin> (but way more interaction in GBT)
15:56 <+roasbeef> yeh in the end adoption/deployment is what matters too, and the miners would need a suuuuuper compelling reason to update infra 
15:56 <+roasbeef> i think it was #braidpool? 
15:56 <+roasbeef> or something like that 
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15:57 <+roasbeef> yeh that's it (the IRC channle), I think kanzure was logging it too 
15:57 <+roasbeef> also this is cool: https://gist.github.com/kanzure/b806e07bbe83357c6f9864b7644d40e9 
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19:30 < kanzure> roasbeef: http://gnusha.org/braidpool/
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