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[~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:27 < melande> What I'd like to have is a way to be able to quickly pay in shops/restaurants/etc while staying completely offline (i.e. having a bidirectional communication channel with no one but the payee). The payee can still be required to have internet access (shops/restaurants/etc can make sure that their devices are online, a customer can't) 14:34 < aj> melande: the customer has to authorise the payment, so has to be "online"; that could be either by shop-wifi, or by giving a signature to the shop which gets passed back to the customer's server at home though 14:40 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 14:53 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 15:08 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #lightning-dev 15:15 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vodtzkukthhchmws] has joined #lightning-dev 15:59 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:06 -!- 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