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01:15 < devrandom> ariard: what's this about revealing private keys??
01:17 < devrandom> in any case, we use hardened non-bip32 derivation (HKDF stolen from C-lightning) to derive channel keys in Lightning Signer by default, but the developer can change that.  I would think something hardened is best for defense in depth.
01:22 < devrandom> (when are the meeting in this chan?  once a month?)
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01:43 < darosior> devrandom: every 2 weeks
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05:57 < devrandom> darosior: 19:00 UTC, or some other reference timezone?
06:09 < cdecker> devrandom: my calendar says 05:30 AM Every 2 weeks on Tuesday (Central Australia Time - Adelaide)
06:09 < cdecker> Let me check if there is a way to publicly share the calendar entry
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06:33 < mol> devrandom, every other Monday at 15:00 EDT
06:35 < darosior> cdecker: maybe an ics file on the issue on the spec repo?
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07:10 < lnd-bot> [lightning-rfc] t-bast force pushed 1 commit to relax-closing-fee-requirement: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/compare/3566bcfb567c...9a0b1f68d6c6
07:10 < lnd-bot> lightning-rfc/relax-closing-fee-requirement 9a0b1f6 t-bast: Add fee range TLV
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10:15 < devrandom> thank you mol.  just trying to make sure because daylight savings starts on different dates in different timezones.  I'll add it as EDT then
10:21 < devrandom> (I'm guessing Australia is not the reference cdecker and that it will move for you April 4th)
10:22 < jkczyz> devrandom: I'd suggest using the timezone cdecker mentioned. Daylight savings doesn't overlap exactly between it and EDT, IIUC
10:23 < jkczyz> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#specification-modification-process
10:25 < devrandom> jkczyz: so Australia is the reference timezone for the meeting, got it
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10:27 < jkczyz> yep
10:30 < devrandom> thank you
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10:58 < mol> devrandom, yw, maybe the UTC time would be best for everyone to understand, all i know is currently the meeting is every two weeks on Monday at 15 hr New York Time, if that can explain better, and i think it's changed during winter
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11:06 < devrandom> mol: I think it's on 16:00 EDT April 12, and the rest of the summer
11:08 < mol> oh really.. and a few weeks ago it was at 14:00 EST.. lol
11:09 < devrandom> oh, yeah, Australia does daylight savings in the other direction because of reverse winter/summer
11:31 < cdecker> Welcome to the timezone confusion :-)
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12:09 < vincenzopalazzo> cdecker: We should to set up an rfc for the timezone :)
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12:42 < niftynei> here's the video explainer of the dual-funding protocol proposal that i mentioned during the spec meeting discussion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_GxmNZjwhk
12:43 < niftynei> it's a "here's how v1 works, here's how v2 works" level-overview
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13:14 < darosior> Nice
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20:29 < lnd-bot> [lightning-rfc] LLFourn opened pull request #859: per_commitment_secret must be a valid secret key (master...patch-1) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/pull/859
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