--- Log opened Thu Oct 21 00:00:10 2021 01:00 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 01:26 -!- emcy_ [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 01:29 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:55 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@71pc74.sshunet.nl] has joined #lightning-dev 03:06 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 03:06 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29 -!- yonson [~yonson@2600:8801:d900:7bb:1e69:7aff:fea2:4e85] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29 -!- yonson [~yonson@2600:8801:d900:7bb:1e69:7aff:fea2:4e85] has joined #lightning-dev 03:31 -!- freesprung [~freesprun@user/freesprung] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:39 -!- esraa [~esraa@147.236.159.129] has joined #lightning-dev 03:39 -!- esraa [~esraa@147.236.159.129] has quit [Client Quit] 04:06 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 04:07 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 04:07 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 04:07 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 04:08 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 04:08 -!- emcy_ [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:23 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 04:24 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 04:31 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 04:32 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 05:31 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 10:02 -!- plankster [~plankster@user/plankers] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:03 -!- plankster [~plankster@user/plankers] has joined #lightning-dev 10:07 -!- plankster_ [~plankster@user/plankers] has joined #lightning-dev 10:08 -!- plankster [~plankster@user/plankers] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:11 -!- plankster_ is now known as plank 12:12 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@2603-8080-1540-002d-9c38-3f2f-b680-9b24.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 12:19 -!- smartin [~Icedove@88.135.18.171] has quit [Quit: smartin] 12:40 -!- jarthur_ [~jarthur@2603-8080-1540-002d-2cdd-ee6c-360d-1986.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 12:41 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@2603-8080-1540-002d-9c38-3f2f-b680-9b24.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:46 -!- gene [~gene@gateway/tor-sasl/gene] has joined #lightning-dev 13:18 -!- jamesob [uid180710@id-180710.helmsley.irccloud.com] has joined #lightning-dev 13:20 < jamesob> hey, sorry for the kind of dumb question but I've been trying to google around for this to no avail: has there been any talk of using musig+taproot to restructure lightning scripts so that "happy path" channel closes appear as a regular p2tr keypath spend? 13:21 < jamesob> and I guess likewise for channel opens and commitment txs... i.e. can we make the whole happy-path lightning flow look like regular p2tr keyspends? 13:22 < darosior> jamesob: Taproot integration with LN-penalty is being discussed on the ML currently. It was also discussed in Zurich and roasbeef is going to publish a summary soon (i think) 13:23 < jamesob> is LN-penalty proposed to have the characteristic that I describe above for fully cooperative channel ops? 13:31 < darosior> Nothing is set in stone but yeah eventually not only for openings and mutual closes but also for in-script keys and to have adaptor signatures to enable PTLCs 13:44 < jamesob> darosior: cool, thanks 13:47 < gene> has there been any mailing list, or spec discussion for a PTLC standard for lightning? 13:48 * gene should really stop being lazy and join the ML 13:57 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57 < darosior> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2021-October/003278.html is the latest. 13:58 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #lightning-dev 13:59 < gene> darosior: thanks, realised too late basically asked the same question as jamesob 14:06 -!- plank [~plankster@user/plankers] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:28 -!- gene [~gene@gateway/tor-sasl/gene] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:29 -!- gene [~gene@gateway/tor-sasl/gene] has joined #lightning-dev 14:43 -!- plankster [~plankster@user/plankers] has joined #lightning-dev 14:45 -!- plankster is now known as plank 15:03 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 15:05 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 16:11 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 16:12 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 16:26 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@71pc74.sshunet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:50 -!- jamesob [uid180710@id-180710.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:04 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 17:08 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:09 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 17:25 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 17:25 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 19:19 -!- yonson [~yonson@2600:8801:d900:7bb:1e69:7aff:fea2:4e85] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19 -!- yonson [~yonson@2600:8801:d900:7bb:1e69:7aff:fea2:4e85] has joined #lightning-dev 19:22 -!- gene [~gene@gateway/tor-sasl/gene] has quit [Quit: gene] 19:27 -!- stick [sid403625@user/prusnak] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:28 -!- stick [sid403625@user/prusnak] has joined #lightning-dev 19:58 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:18 -!- BlueMatt_ [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #lightning-dev 21:20 -!- belcher [~belcher@user/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:28 -!- plank is now known as phasmatodea 21:33 -!- belcher [~belcher@user/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 22:07 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:15 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #lightning-dev 22:18 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@user/jackielove4u] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:22 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@user/jackielove4u] has joined #lightning-dev 22:27 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:27 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #lightning-dev 22:40 -!- jarthur_ [~jarthur@2603-8080-1540-002d-2cdd-ee6c-360d-1986.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: jarthur_] 22:49 -!- commmon [~common@096-033-221-075.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49 -!- commmon [~common@096-033-221-075.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 23:48 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Oct 22 00:00:10 2021