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10:16 < mjdietzx> Let's say I have a private lightning channel w/ a friend. Is there anything preventing us from slightly deviating from the original funding transaction being a plain 2 of 2 multisig? I am thinking about a situation where I want the funding transaction to be broadcasted before the counterparty provides the pre-signed refund transaction. So what I want is the funding transaction to be a 2 of 2 multisig with a time lock condition, where 
10:16 < mjdietzx> Alice (the party that provides the initial funds) has 6 blocks to claim back the bitcoin before it is locked in the 2 of 2 multisig (probably using CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY). That way if Bob (the party Alice is opening a channel with) does not provide the pre-signed refund transaction shortly after the funding transaction is broadcasted, Alice can just claim back the bitcoin right away. The reason I want to do this is bc I want to be able 
10:16 < mjdietzx> to broadcast the funding transaction right away. I don't want to have to wait or communicate with Bob before that point, so he won't have the funding transaction id to create a refund transaction until it is broadcasted. But I also want to be sure it is trustless and prevents the blackmail scenario. I realize Alice and Bob probably need to be running a slightly modified fork of c-lightning/lnd for this to happen which is fine for this 
10:16 < mjdietzx> use-case
10:17 < BlueMatt[m]> for private channels, no one cares what format your output script takes, no.
10:18 < BlueMatt[m]> only time "the network" even looks at such things is if its a public channel, where you point to the on-chain utxo.
10:20 < mjdietzx> Ok, thank you that makes sense!
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11:00 < vincenzopalazzo> hello :)
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11:00 < realtbast[m]> Hey everyone!
11:01 < endothermicdev> hello! Happy Valentine's day.
11:01 < niftynei____> hey oh
11:01 < niftynei____> agenda here: https://github.com/lightning/bolts/issues/957
11:01 < BlueMatt[m]> Are we video’ing today?
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11:01 < ariard> hi :)
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11:02 < realtbast[m]> We can ;)
11:02 < realtbast[m]> Unless ariard you'd rather use text only?
11:02 < BlueMatt[m]> dont care, just a question
11:02 < moneyball_> can i add a quick agenda item to discuss a LN coredev meetup?
11:02 < ariard> realtbast: fine with jitsi we used that for ldk ones
11:02 < realtbast[m]> sure moneyball_!
11:03 < BlueMatt[m]> looks like everyone is on video but you, realtbast
11:03 < realtbast[m]> coming
11:03 < BlueMatt[m]> oh, and niftynei____
11:05 < niftynei____> gah
11:05 < niftynei____> are we always doing video now lol
11:05 < BlueMatt[m]> i think its default?
11:05 < BlueMatt[m]> unless we dont have a transcriber available
11:06 < BlueMatt[m]> rusty
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11:23 < arik> the jitsi is randomly ejecting me
11:23 < BlueMatt[m]> lol uhmmmm
11:23 < ariard> all of us were
11:23 < BlueMatt[m]> yea, it rejected everyone
11:23 < remyers[m]> everyone was kicked, need to rejoin
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11:35 < BlueMatt[m]> huh, just got kicked again :/
11:35 < BlueMatt[m]> i guess jitsi is...jank :(
11:35 < BlueMatt[m]> never had issues with it until today :/
11:47 < rusty> #action rusty to make zeroconf open  "I trust you" a channel type, move other feature bit... 
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12:10 < niftynei____> next lightning dev meetup ... bali??
12:11 < niftynei____> *looks up quarantine regs, see 5-days, closes tab*
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12:11 < BlueMatt[m]> oof
12:11 < BlueMatt[m]> hawaii is still test-or-vax, iiuc
12:12 < BlueMatt[m]> and there was some reports recently of them probably removing even that restriction
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15:49 < rusty> realtbast[m]: did the offers blinded path payinfo change.
15:49 < rusty> BlueMatt: did the `desthint` addition for supporting private channels where peer doesn't support blinded payments (yet)
15:51 < BlueMatt[m]> thanks! lets commit to deprecating it in june 2023 :)
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16:45 < rusty> It kinds of self-deprecates, see text.  You're only supposed to use it if no peers support blinded payments...
16:51 < BlueMatt[m]> Ah cool
16:51 < BlueMatt[m]> I’ll take a look later
16:51 < BlueMatt[m]> Thanks!
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23:45 < realtbast[m]> thanks rusty!
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