--- Log opened Tue Mar 01 00:00:13 2022 00:46 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #lightning-dev 01:10 -!- rusty [~rusty@121.44.216.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:10 -!- jespada [~jespada@185.69.145.16] has joined #lightning-dev 02:05 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-85.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:05 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-117.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lightning-dev 02:06 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #lightning-dev 02:52 < remyers[m]> "miners *should* re-implement..." <- Is it really always better for a miner to select a large absolute fee package than prefer a smaller package with the same input but at a higher fee rate? 03:01 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 03:50 -!- plankster_ [~plankster@user/plankers] has joined #lightning-dev 03:51 -!- plankster [~plankster@user/plankers] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:05 -!- riclas [riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 04:10 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:13 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #lightning-dev 04:20 < realtbast[m]> If blocks aren't full yes, this is always better for miners. If the transactions backlog is small (only a few blocks worth of transactions), it may or may not be better for miners depending on what other transactions will be submitted in the future 04:41 < remyers[m]> That makes sense; so in the case where blocks aren't full it doesn't matter what relay nodes do because miners will prefer to increase the absolute tx fees in their block vs. mining a replacement with a higher fee rate. But otoh that tx won't be pinned if it's included in a block at a lower fee rate, so the problem is only when the backlog is smallish? 04:42 < remyers[m]> Because the heuristic does not allow the higher fee rate version to be considered (by adding it to mempool) even when it might be preferred for some near-future block. Do I have that right? 04:46 < remyers[m]> (and you can't consider both because you blow up your mempool if you store every variant tx) 05:02 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:09 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:11 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Client Quit] 05:11 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:15 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Client Quit] 05:16 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:18 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Client Quit] 05:23 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:24 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:25 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:26 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Client Quit] 05:27 -!- jespada [~jespada@185.69.145.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:28 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 05:34 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:35 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 05:40 -!- emcy [~emcy@user/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 06:20 -!- Guest86 [~Guest86@2600:1700:14d0:65e0:843a:8bb8:7aef:6575] has joined #lightning-dev 06:22 -!- Guest86 [~Guest86@2600:1700:14d0:65e0:843a:8bb8:7aef:6575] has quit [Client Quit] 06:24 -!- jespada [~jespada@185.69.145.16] has joined #lightning-dev 07:08 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #lightning-dev 07:15 -!- plankster_ [~plankster@user/plankers] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 07:18 -!- plankster [~plankster@user/plankers] has joined #lightning-dev 07:24 < realtbast[m]> Actually it's more complex than that...this link contains a lot of valuable information: https://gist.github.com/glozow/25d9662c52453bd08b4b4b1d3783b9ff 07:34 -!- Kiowa [~Jason@047-045-153-185.biz.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.3] 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