--- Log opened Thu Apr 14 00:00:54 2022 00:07 -!- rusty [~rusty@203.217.95.210] has joined #lightning-dev 00:10 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 00:14 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18 -!- An0rak [An0rak@user/an0rak] has joined #lightning-dev 00:18 -!- whysthatso12507 [~whysthats@74-206-50-195.sta.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 00:18 -!- whysthatso12507 [~whysthats@74-206-50-195.sta.estpak.ee] has joined #lightning-dev 00:23 -!- rusty [~rusty@203.217.95.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:32 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has joined #lightning-dev 00:49 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:51 -!- rusty [~rusty@203.217.95.210] has joined #lightning-dev 00:55 -!- jarthur_ [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has joined #lightning-dev 00:59 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 01:13 -!- jarthur_ [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:15 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has joined #lightning-dev 01:16 -!- darosior [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19 -!- darosior [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has joined #lightning-dev 01:21 -!- td00_ [~td001@172.245.134.58] has joined #lightning-dev 01:22 -!- td001 [~td001@172.245.134.58] has quit [Quit: I'm outta here!] 01:22 -!- td00_ is now known as td001 02:03 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@178.249.214.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:03 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@178.249.214.10] has joined #lightning-dev 04:02 -!- An0rak [An0rak@user/an0rak] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:10 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:10 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 05:35 -!- An0rak [An0rak@user/an0rak] has joined #lightning-dev 05:51 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 06:25 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 06:27 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #lightning-dev 06:33 -!- jespada [~jespada@2a0c:5c84:1:3000::3b58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38 -!- jespada [~jespada@2a0c:5c84:1:6000::7f92] has joined #lightning-dev 07:09 -!- jespada [~jespada@2a0c:5c84:1:6000::7f92] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 -!- Common [~Common@096-033-221-075.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 07:14 -!- jespada [~jespada@cpc121022-nmal24-2-0-cust171.19-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lightning-dev 07:42 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 07:46 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 10:12 -!- Henry151 [~bishop@user/henry151] has joined #lightning-dev 10:15 < Henry151> hey there. I read about whatsat, for encrypted messaging over the lightning protocol. But, has anybody made "twitter over the lightning protocol" yet? I think it could work. A quick search didn't turn up any existing project doing this, but I'm imagining it's likely being implemented by someone already. Anybody have any links? 10:17 < realtbast[m]> Have you looked at https://github.com/fiatjaf/nostr ? Disclaimer: I haven't looked at how it works at all, I just know that it fits your description 10:19 < BlueMatt[m]> I don't believe its "over the lightning protocol" (or really lightning-related at all). lightning isn't a good tool for this - lightning is designed to be point-to-point (why tell the world about your payments, they just concern the sender + recipient, though we have to tell everyone on the path, sadly). twitter is broadcast. 10:22 < realtbast[m]> I totally agree with Matt here, that lightning is not a good messaging layer for something like twitter. I even don't think it's a good tool for something like chat, and always said whatsat was a bad idea, but that's just my opinion ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 10:26 -!- darosior0 [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has joined #lightning-dev 10:29 -!- cryptapus_ [~cryptapus@user/cryptapus] has joined #lightning-dev 10:29 -!- Keele_ [~keele@91-158-68-128.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #lightning-dev 10:29 -!- Kiowa_ [~Jason@047-045-166-237.biz.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 10:30 -!- Henry151_ [~bishop@user/henry151] has joined #lightning-dev 10:30 -!- jarthur_ [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has joined #lightning-dev 10:31 < Henry151_> i'm looking at say, https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/lnd/send-messages-with-keysend 10:31 < Henry151_> scroll down a bit and it says "The full command below will send this message together with 10 satoshis to Amboss.space, where it is displayed publicly." 10:32 < BlueMatt[m]> yea, I mean probably (a) dont do that, (b) that is point-to-point, not broadcast 10:33 -!- Shotokan_ZH [~ShotokanZ@aitch.me] has joined #lightning-dev 10:33 < BlueMatt[m]> if you want to send messages over lightning, probably use onion messages (on CLN/eclair) not keysend, which doesn't work for private nodes anyway. but also probably don't build a chat app with lightning, that's just 10x more complexity than you need. 10:33 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: BlueMatt, jarthur, Henry151, warren, darosior, Kiowa, plankster, tinova, Keele, ShotokanZH, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 10:33 -!- darosior0 is now known as darosior 10:34 < realtbast[m]> 100% agree on that 10:36 < Henry151_> ok so if i were to send a message to amboss.space that would be "displayed publicly," that's still a private message to them, essentially, and they're just choosing to display it publicly.. it's still not accessible to others if say, amboss.space decided to not publish it 10:37 -!- BlueMatt_ [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #lightning-dev 10:37 -!- Netsplit over, joins: warren, plankster, tinova 10:43 < BlueMatt[m]> yea 10:49 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 11:05 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 11:18 -!- jarthur_ is now known as jarthur 11:23 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:34 -!- An0rak [An0rak@user/an0rak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:19 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@178.249.214.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:20 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@178.249.214.10] has joined #lightning-dev 14:45 -!- rusty [~rusty@203.217.95.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:14 -!- Kiowa_ is now known as Kiowa 16:32 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has quit [Quit: jarthur] 17:12 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:25 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 17:28 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:57 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:04 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 18:35 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 18:42 -!- jespada_ [~jespada@cpc121022-nmal24-2-0-cust171.19-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:42 -!- An0rak [An0rak@user/an0rak] has joined #lightning-dev 18:43 -!- jespada [~jespada@cpc121022-nmal24-2-0-cust171.19-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:12 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 21:28 -!- An0rak [An0rak@user/an0rak] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:57 -!- jespada [~jespada@2a0c:5c84:1:1000::b65d] has joined #lightning-dev 21:59 -!- jespada_ [~jespada@cpc121022-nmal24-2-0-cust171.19-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:23 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:24 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev --- Log closed Fri Apr 15 00:00:55 2022