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01:03 < Guest34> Hi, beginner question is there a command for shell how to locate the config?
01:04 < Guest34> Like `sudo find / -name "config"` has to many hits
01:04 < vincenzopalazzo> Guest34: wrong room, this is related to the lightning network spec, I guess you want to join for core lightning?
01:04 < Guest34> oh yeah
01:04 < Guest34> sorry
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15:40 < VzxPLnHqr> hi lightning-dev people! I have a pretty bizarre use-case I am trying to prove out but ran into some lightning protocol jargon in the specs which I do not (yet) understand.
15:42 < VzxPLnHqr> in essence I am trying to understand how many commit transactions are possible. I think it is 2^48 - 1 ?
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15:54 < VzxPLnHqr> the reason I am asking is because my lightning-like channel is a situation where Alice funds a channel with Bob, and immediately pushes all the funds to Bob.
15:54 < VzxPLnHqr> But, but with the catch that the funding transaction, as well as commitment transactions, are encumbered with a work-lock (see https://github.com/vzxplnhqr/sig-pow for an example of a work-lock). 
15:55 < VzxPLnHqr> Basically this sets up a situation where neither Alice, nor Bob, are able to access the funds until one of them produces a short enough ecdsa signature (does the work).
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16:00 < VzxPLnHqr> Now, imagine that Bob leaks his private key but keeps private his connection seed. So now anybody can use his private key to try to close the channel.
16:01 < VzxPLnHqr> However, my question is whether, in this scenario, Alice & Bob can work together to use his commitment seed coupled with her (still private) side of the channel, to sell lottery tickets
16:04 < VzxPLnHqr> Realistically, Alice and Bob are the same entity here, so we can just say it is Alice. As such, Alice keeps private: her key, her commitment seed, and Bob's commitment seed. Bob's key becomes public.
16:06 < VzxPLnHqr> I think this setup allows Alice to (via a traditional lightning channel) sell tickets. Each ticket sold corresponds to Bob's next per-commitment secret.
16:07 < VzxPLnHqr> But I am not confident I understand lightning well enough, so that is why I am here asking you where I have (most likely!) gone wrong with this :-). Thank you in advance for reading!
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17:57 < roasbeef> VzxPLnHqr: yeh practically, the total amount of channels is "enough", 2^48-1 is something like 281 trillion states, which is you assume each state takes 100ms to update, would take 8920 years to burn thru 
17:58 < roasbeef> interesting idea re the "work lock"
17:59 < roasbeef> re selling tickets, sounds like some past on chain probablisitic payment ideas, key question there is: how do you prevent the issuer from giving ppl the same (maybe valid ticket)? prior ideas there are a posted bond that forfeits funds if two valid tickets (or the same rather) are presented 
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18:00 < roasbeef> I'm missing how it's a lottery scheme tho, rather than a sort of time lock decryption scheme 
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