--- Log opened Fri Nov 18 00:00:20 2022 00:22 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:24 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #lightning-dev 01:00 -!- riclas [~riclas@26.27.71.148.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 01:08 -!- riclas [~riclas@26.27.71.148.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:26 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:03 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-142.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:04 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-142.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lightning-dev 02:56 -!- riclas [~riclas@26.27.71.148.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 03:24 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #lightning-dev 03:57 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #lightning-dev 04:42 -!- steve__ [steve@2600:3c01::f03c:93ff:fe06:6f60] has joined #lightning-dev 05:42 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 05:48 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 07:20 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:21 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 07:47 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 08:25 -!- jonatack1 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:41 -!- steve__ [steve@2600:3c01::f03c:93ff:fe06:6f60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:55 -!- jonatack1 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #lightning-dev 08:57 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 08:59 -!- jonatack1 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:05 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 09:21 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 09:44 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 09:51 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 09:52 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 < VzxPLnHqr> roasbeef, thanks reading and your reply! 10:15 -!- instagibbs_ [~instagibb@pool-100-15-129-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:17 < VzxPLnHqr> roasbeef, The reason why it is a lottery is that if somebody comes along and buys a ticket from Alice, she gives them the new commitment secret. So purchaser of the ticket now could invalidate any prior commitment transaction. Alice could too because she obviously knows the secrets. 10:19 < VzxPLnHqr> However, what both Alice and the purchaser of the ticket are (probably) lacking is a signature that meets the work-lock criteria. Hence, the ticket purchaser might try a couple signatures. However, as soon as Alice sells (or releases publicly) the next commitment secret, then the purchaser is better off buying another ticket. 10:20 < VzxPLnHqr> roasbeef, I think that is how it all could work? 10:22 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-129-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lightning-dev 10:25 < VzxPLnHqr> and in an effort to make it trustless and atomic, can Alice sell the next per-commitment secret (the necessary ingredient for the next ticket) via the usual lightning mechanism? r_hash = sha256(nex_commitment_secret) 10:35 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@user/jackielove4u] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:36 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@user/jackielove4u] has joined #lightning-dev 12:03 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-142.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:26 -!- VzxPLnHqr [VzxPLnHqr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/vzxplnhqr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:27 -!- VzxPLnHqr [VzxPLnHqr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/vzxplnhqr] has joined #lightning-dev 12:27 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 15:23 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 15:59 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:01 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-142.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lightning-dev 16:23 -!- kexkey_ [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-142.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lightning-dev 16:26 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-142.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:31 -!- riclas [~riclas@26.27.71.148.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [] 18:34 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 22:17 -!- rszarka [~szarka@2001-48f8-9004-109-71a3-bcc8-4ffe-e2a5-dynamic.midco.net] has joined #lightning-dev 22:20 -!- robszarka [~szarka@2001-48F8-9004-109-DCB3-6F0A-F14D-9FA0-dynamic.midco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Nov 19 00:00:21 2022