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Is there a timeout or does the fundee just wait forever? 13:14 < BlueMatt[m]> depends on the implementation. the channel is definitely considered "failed" if you disconnect/reconnect per the protocol 13:14 < BlueMatt[m]> beyond that implementations may time out, others may require a force-close rpc call 13:16 < dongcarl> BlueMatt[m]: What does LDK do? 13:17 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-136.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lightning-dev 13:22 < BlueMatt[m]> IIRC we dont explicitly time-out ever if we're the initiator. even if we're not if the channel funds on-chain we wont either. we kinda assume any lightning implementation is gonna have to handle force-closes itself in some way or another, if you haven't seen your peer in ???? days you probably need to force-close 13:22 < BlueMatt[m]> but we dont pretend to have any idea what kinda policy you want 13:22 < BlueMatt[m]> same goes for pre-funding channels, tho i guess we could give up on those quicker 13:23 < BlueMatt[m]> not that it matters much, you shouldn't commit funding resources to a channel pre-accept anyway, so there's relatively low overhead to them sticking around until we disconnect 13:48 < dongcarl> gotchu 14:07 -!- warmhug [~warmhug@gateway/tor-sasl/warmhug] has joined #lightning-dev 14:46 -!- warmhug [~warmhug@gateway/tor-sasl/warmhug] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48 -!- warmhug [~warmhug@gateway/tor-sasl/warmhug] has joined #lightning-dev 14:59 -!- warmhug [~warmhug@gateway/tor-sasl/warmhug] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00 -!- warmhug [~warmhug@gateway/tor-sasl/warmhug] has joined #lightning-dev 15:00 -!- DeanWeen is now known as DeanGuss 15:00 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@nonplayercharacter.me] has quit [Changing host] 15:00 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@user/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 15:36 -!- rusty [~rusty@203.221.41.134] has joined #lightning-dev 15:56 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:36 -!- jonatack3 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:07 -!- jonatack3 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #lightning-dev 17:36 -!- jonatack3 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42 -!- jonatack3 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #lightning-dev 18:11 -!- riclas [~riclas@26.27.71.148.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:55 -!- endothermicdev_ [~endotherm@99-98-58-43.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:56 -!- endothermicdev [~endotherm@2600:1700:8481:8900:e9d2:8fae:dde2:5329] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:17 -!- andrewtoth [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #lightning-dev 20:37 -!- rusty [~rusty@203.221.41.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:08 -!- rusty [~rusty@115-166-20-247.tpgi.com.au] has joined #lightning-dev 21:12 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #lightning-dev 21:15 -!- jonatack3 [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:19 -!- rszarka [~szarka@2001-48F8-9004-109-604F-ED98-2810-13A2-dynamic.midco.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:22 -!- robszarka [~szarka@2001-48F8-9004-109-68EA-1195-26A1-A01C-dynamic.midco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:37 -!- rusty [~rusty@115-166-20-247.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:43 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 23:38 < realtbast[m]> The spec says you should ensure that the funding tx confirms in less than 2016 blocks, otherwise you may forget that channel: https://github.com/lightning/bolts/blob/master/02-peer-protocol.md#rationale-1 23:38 < realtbast[m]> It usually applies to the fundee side a bit later in the protocol while they're waiting for the funding tx to confirm, but eclair also applies this to earlier states. 23:38 < realtbast[m]> If you haven't sent `accept_channel` for 2016 blocks, we'll simply forget that channel. --- Log closed Tue Nov 29 00:00:30 2022