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07:38 < pinheadmz> thinking more about the eltoo concept and especially the tapscript that uses 1_G ... in BIP118 you've got 0x01 as a sort of alias for the internal public key... why not use another single byte to represent G? like a single 0x07 (7th letter of the alphabet!) or something... save us 32 witness bytes
07:40 < instagibbs> sure, it's been discussed a few times
07:43 < pinheadmz> ah, I'm late. At least I get it!
07:44 < instagibbs> I'm building on a tall stack of concepts, some of which i am not an author
07:44 < instagibbs> staying lean, if people end up wanting it, it's easy to update
08:18 < pinheadmz> _aj_ instagibbs https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1g3ZODEjsHMoBkL1XYnd19gf06OUn3P6f6SLOZlNcnQE/
08:19 < pinheadmz> slides from bitdevs last night ;-)
08:19 < pinheadmz> ty both !
08:20 < _aj_> pinheadmz: how'd it go?
08:20 < pinheadmz> well tbh at one point i lost my train of thought and the chaincode guys were like "what time is it in Australia right now?!"
08:21 < pinheadmz> Murch threw me off w a Q I couldnt answer, but now i realize the answer *was* "all the update and setllement outputs include the penalty"
08:21 < pinheadmz> anyway, lots of minds were blown as expected so overall a big success
08:23 < _aj_> sweet
08:29 < instagibbs> cool! 
08:57 < instagibbs> Question: Which implementations spend the remote's commitment tx anchor if remote commit tx is seen in mempool?
09:01 < realtbast[m]> eclair doesn't, but it's in my todo-list :D
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09:25 < instagibbs> cool, thanks!
09:30 < BlueMatt[m]> None do, it’s probably useless, too - in any kind of pinning attack where that matters you won’t see it in your local mempool
09:30 < BlueMatt[m]> It’s one more hurdle for your counterparty to jump to do a pinning attack, but not a particularly high one
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