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00:44 < realtbast[m]> But it assumes a specific form of async payments though (and we're not sure what will eventually land). If that's the expected model, then it's too early to introduce this bLIP, it should wait for async payments to be finalized?
00:46 < realtbast[m]> Whereas a model where HTLCs that cannot be forwarded through channels are forwarded in a wrapper message to let the mobile wallet do the "normal" MPP aggregation works today, and is simple: mobile wallets decrypt onions like they do for normal HTLCs, add them to their MPP aggregation state machine like they do for normal HTLCs, and only need an additional step when accepting such payments.
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07:34 < valwal> realtbast[m]: yeah, ofc true that the async payments spec isn’t even close to finalized lol 
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07:34 < valwal> that scheme^ makes a lot of sense if we thought MPP support was a dealbreaker. but to me, it doesn’t seem crazy to have this bLIP merged on its own and specify that MPP is not supported, and in the future add a different bLIP with the mpp aggregation parts that is a dependency of blip25 *if* mpp support is desired
07:34 < valwal> reasoning being that this solves a problem on its own, even if it’s incomplete
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07:48 < realtbast[m]> Right, if you think this will be used by some LSPs today (without MPP support) then that works for me 👍️
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07:52 < valwal> gotcha, appreciate all the inputs 👍
07:52 < valwal> will update the bLIP
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12:55 < BlueMatt[m]> <realtbast[m]> "But it assumes a specific form..." <- wait, I'm confused, this isn't about async payments, this is about LSPs more generally.
12:55 < BlueMatt[m]> yea, okay, val poineed that out
12:55 < BlueMatt[m]> s/poineed/pointed/
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