--- Day changed Wed Aug 09 2017 00:01 -!- JackH [~laptop@46.231.18.66] has joined #lnd 00:06 -!- JackH [~laptop@46.231.18.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:21 -!- JackH [~laptop@095-097-240-018.static.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 01:47 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: alt0id, thrasher`, spinza 01:55 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@240f:d:e193:1:a977:ce48:ebb5:e729] has joined #lnd 01:55 -!- JackH [~laptop@095-097-240-018.static.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:56 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@240f:d:e193:1:a977:ce48:ebb5:e729] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has joined #lnd 02:31 -!- alt0id [~jacks@pulsar.1337.cx] has joined #lnd 02:31 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lnd 02:33 -!- thrasher` [~thrasher@unaffiliated/thrasher/x-7291870] has joined #lnd 02:47 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #lnd 02:53 -!- JackH [~laptop@46.231.18.66] has joined #lnd 04:00 -!- Sentineo [~Undefined@node.chcembitcoin.sk] has joined #lnd 04:14 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-198-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:15 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@079-170-138-094-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 05:05 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 05:52 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:24 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 07:22 < betawaffle> Emcy_: LN won't be ready by them 07:22 < betawaffle> then* 07:39 -!- cbusbot [d5399527@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.57.149.39] has joined #lnd 07:39 -!- cbusbot [d5399527@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.57.149.39] has quit [Client Quit] 08:08 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:26 -!- JackH [~laptop@46.231.18.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:58 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 08:58 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 09:04 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:05 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 09:12 -!- dabura667 [uid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abjdybyfwwsdtvxv] has joined #lnd 09:31 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:32 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lnd 10:04 -!- riclas [~riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [] 10:18 <@roasbeef> betawaffle: disagrre, depending on what you mean by "ready" :p 10:18 < betawaffle> roasbeef: really? that sounds great 10:19 < betawaffle> just didn't want to set a date on your behalf 10:21 < Emcy_> i mean channels open in prod and being used 10:21 < Emcy_> alleviating significant chain pressure 10:55 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lnd 11:29 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:43 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:15 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lnd 12:47 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 12:53 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:54 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:19 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:582:3700:c4ba:5e54:538b:df4f] has joined #lnd 13:21 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 13:21 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:21 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 13:21 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:22 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 13:23 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:24 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 13:41 -!- vicenteH [~user@13.232.15.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lnd 14:02 -!- mnkk___ [~mnk4@ip5f5ae92a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [] 14:12 < stevenroose> Emcy_: channels open and being used is not all that we need. LN depends on some level of network effect to be effective in allowing anyone to anyone payments 14:12 < stevenroose> but that will grow naturally, assuming the obvious benefits of instant payments and low fees 14:13 < stevenroose> roasbeef: what's the current default policy for relaying payments through some of your channels? 14:13 < stevenroose> fee-wise f.e. 14:20 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #lnd 14:29 <@roasbeef> stevenroose: atm zero fees, have a local branch to put in a hook to adjust 14:36 < stevenroose> roasbeef: ideally that'd be hooked in by an interface indeed. some basic logic could be provided, but that way more advanced users could do their own thing 14:37 < stevenroose> it makes sense f.e. to allow for refusing payments if they make one of your channel balances go below a certain limit as they limit your own ability to make payments 14:37 <@roasbeef> sure yeh I have plans to add a simple system for forwarding predicates 14:37 <@roasbeef> seems like you're talking about to two diff things tho 14:38 <@roasbeef> fees, and general forwarding policy 14:41 < stevenroose> yeah I meant more general (hence the "fee-wise f.e.") 14:46 < stevenroose> it's a luxury thing to have though, nothing urgent 14:59 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:582:3700:c4ba:5e54:538b:df4f] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:59 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:04 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:582:3700:c4ba:5e54:538b:df4f] has joined #lnd 15:12 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:582:3700:c4ba:5e54:538b:df4f] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:19 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.133] has joined #lnd 16:06 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ihcmycgxarpdvtlv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:14 <@roasbeef> yeh initially will just be a simple knob, have fancier stuff in the plans 16:14 <@roasbeef> have a bunch of issues i'll be dumpingon the tracker soon-ish 16:19 < betawaffle> roasbeef: are you doing most of this work alone? 16:19 <@roasbeef> nope 16:33 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:59 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:13 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.133] has joined #lnd 17:18 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.232.227.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:52 -!- dabura667_ [~dabura667@KD111103034253.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 18:53 -!- dabura667_ [~dabura667@KD111103034253.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-54-175-255-176.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #lnd 19:13 < jimpo> roasbeef: In the neutrino light client protocol, is there a reason the filter headers don't commit to the block hash? 19:14 <@roasbeef> jimpo: yeh, initially to be introduced w/o any soft-fork to test the waters 19:14 < jimpo> I don't mean blocks/coinbases committing to the filters 19:14 < jimpo> I mean the filter headers committing to the blocks 19:15 < jimpo> So that you can tell from the filter header chain which chain it refers to 19:17 <@roasbeef> the filterheader message itself contains the blockhash of the filter head 19:17 <@roasbeef> cfheader 19:19 <@roasbeef> actually cfilter contains the blockhash 19:19 < jimpo> Looks like the comments on the fields for the cfheaders message need to be updated in the BIP https://github.com/Roasbeef/bips/blob/master/gcs_light_client.mediawiki 19:19 < jimpo> They appear to be copied from the getcfheaders table 19:19 <@roasbeef> yeh just realized that myself lol 19:20 < jimpo> So I assume the client is storing the filter headers associated with the block hashes from the cfheader message then? 19:21 <@roasbeef> yeh, during initial sync the client gets the filter headers along with the regualr bitcoin headers 19:23 < jimpo> I guess I'm just getting confused b/c of the message definitions in the BIP 19:24 < jimpo> With getcfheaders do you provide a full locator or just a single hash? 19:25 < jimpo> OK, I assume full locator + stop hash 19:26 -!- moctos [~moctos@cpe-107-9-138-59.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 19:28 <@roasbeef> both 19:28 <@roasbeef> yeh the doc is messed up in that area, thanks, will fix! 19:31 < jimpo> cool. Also minor typo in the pseudocode for filter_header: fitler(n) 19:32 < jimpo> the protocol is really f**king cool btw. especially the GCS encoding/querying. 19:46 <@roasbeef> jimpo: thanks! if you don't mind, wanna either make an issue on my BIP fork (so I don't forget) or just make a PR? 19:47 < jimpo> I'll open a PR for the typo and make an issue about the message comments (b/c I'm still not clear what they should look like) 19:47 <@roasbeef> cool thx 19:52 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:54 < jimpo> Hmm, can't make GitHub issues on forked repos 19:55 < jimpo> Oh, I guess you can enable them in Settings 20:05 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-54-175-255-176.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:10 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-54-175-255-176.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #lnd 20:39 -!- r1clas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lnd 20:40 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:02 -!- dabura667 [uid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abjdybyfwwsdtvxv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:14 -!- r1clas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:24 -!- as2333 [~as2333@186.153.185.222] has joined #lnd 21:33 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-54-175-255-176.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:10 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #lnd 23:24 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-onkkejeljjhgiuvv] has joined #lnd