--- Day changed Mon Aug 21 2017 00:15 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #lnd 00:34 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 00:57 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:06 -!- HeySteve [~0000@unaffiliated/heysteve] has joined #lnd 01:11 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 01:28 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:41 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 01:42 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:44 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 01:45 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:47 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 02:03 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:11 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 02:12 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 02:13 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 03:17 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lnd 03:32 -!- JackH [~laptop@79-73-189-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:42 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:41 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@uhiainen.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:45 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:01 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-181-079-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:02 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:18 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 06:18 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 06:47 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 07:22 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-178-095-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 08:23 < esotericnonsense> molz: cool. i have spammed it with my free testnet coins... :p 08:24 < molz> esotericnonsense, ahahhaha 08:25 < molz> it's a smart idea and i hope someone can make money from this idea 08:26 < esotericnonsense> it's very cool indeed. a production version would do well with a browser plugin that just autopaid if you click the button. click button -> 'secure' popup appears (e.g. would you like to allow this page to use geolocation) -> payment sent 08:26 < esotericnonsense> browser can then use a signed message to authenticate and prove that it is the user that paid later on if you want to view again 09:16 < molz> the sky is the limit for LN! :D 09:23 < stevenroose> Got back from some weeks of holidays 09:23 < stevenroose> now that btcd merged 656, do we still need to run roasbeef's fork for lnd? 09:47 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lnd 10:42 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has joined #lnd 11:16 <@roasbeef> stevenroose: yep, we still need ot get in the code required to serve neutrino, but after that it all can be switch over 11:17 <@roasbeef> esotericnonsense: there's a dev that's working on a lightnign chrome extension, so that flow isn't too far from what'll be achievable in the future 11:17 <@roasbeef> stevenroose: welcome back! :D 11:18 <@roasbeef> esotericnonsense: no need to use a signed message, user can just present the original pre-image. the pre-image itself can be the root of some commitment or tree, so could possibly allow to authenticate for several articles 12:06 -!- HeySteve [~0000@unaffiliated/heysteve] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:11 -!- HeySteve [~0000@unaffiliated/heysteve] has joined #lnd 12:12 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lnd 12:42 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:54 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@37.157.223.81] has joined #lnd 12:55 -!- MaxSan [~one@213.152.162.94] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:09 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@37.157.223.81] has quit [Changing host] 13:09 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina] has joined #lnd 13:15 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:2e00:300:655a:7cbf:d627:81fb] has joined #lnd 13:29 -!- dclxvi [~dclxvi@95-44-201-135-dynamic.agg1.whi.bdt-fng.eircom.net] has joined #lnd 14:23 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 14:36 < stevenroose> roasbeef: yeah, was great news seeing 656 merged :), and since my node at home shut down for some reason, I got some blocks to catch up on :) 15:04 <@roasbeef> cool, will be pushing a major update here in 2-3 hours, with that will be able to launch full compatability tests 15:15 < JackH> new version coming? 15:16 < JackH> cos I want to deploy before segwit goes live 16:07 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:2e00:300:655a:7cbf:d627:81fb] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:16 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:2e00:300:655a:7cbf:d627:81fb] has joined #lnd 16:21 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a02:a210:2e00:300:655a:7cbf:d627:81fb] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:59 < Emcy> showtime tomorrow lads? 16:59 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:12 < Emcy> would it be possible to incentivise opening multiple channels with smaller coin commitments rather than one with a large commitment, as a way of promoting a more well connected LN graph 17:14 < Emcy> and perhaps as a way of 'leveling' a payment you make over multiple channels intelligiently to help stop your channels becoming too imbalanced and requiring a close 17:16 < Emcy> it would be trading more on chain channel opens for a more densely wired LN graph? 17:16 < Emcy> but that might cancel out over time with less need to perform channel closes? 17:19 < Emcy> think of it like "bonding" and "load balancing" LN channels in order to settle a particular txn and "load balancing" them intelligently according to the state of each channels commit ment balance, the logical txn gets split up into multiple 'physical' LN txs 17:20 < Emcy> i guess this would increase channel fees somewhat over just using a single channel per tx.......but then if everyone did this the avg hop distance between pairs should decrease greatly due to the denser wiring? 17:20 < Emcy> so it might come close to cancelling out. Am i making sense or just rambling 17:25 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.202.107.5] has joined #lnd 17:32 -!- jouke [~worst@unaffiliated/komkommer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 -!- jouke [~worst@unaffiliated/komkommer] has joined #lnd 17:58 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 18:27 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 18:33 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.202.107.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:48 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.93.182.171] has joined #lnd 18:48 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.93.182.171] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:49 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.93.182.171] has joined #lnd 18:49 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:17 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-178-095-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:18 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-178-095-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 20:34 -!- jtarre [ad3863c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.56.99.201] has joined #lnd 20:41 -!- jtarre [ad3863c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.56.99.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:50 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.93.182.171] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:02 < molz> hm? 21:02 < molz> too much text and im not sure what you're saying 21:05 < molz> first off.. there's a general wise advice not to use segwit right away but wait for about two weeks 21:12 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.93.182.171] has joined #lnd 21:17 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.93.182.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]