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05:49 < paulo_> hello, let's say I have a route A->B->C,
05:50 < paulo_> does B need to use the same pub key for B->A and B->C?
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09:35 < paulo_> hello
09:35 < paulo_> how does LND find routes?
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09:56 < MaxSan> Hey folks. Im getting SSL errors when trying to run the desktop app
09:56 < MaxSan> are there instructions for this anywher? cant see any
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10:03 < aakselrod> MaxSan: do you have the specific error?
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10:04 < aakselrod> paulo_: lnd is aware of the entire authenticated graph right now... and an intermediary uses a different transient pubkey for each channel, and another pubkey for its node's communications
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10:05 < paulo_> aakselrod: okay. how many channels are open in testate?
10:05 < paulo_> *testnet
10:05 < paulo_> it it logged?
10:06 < MaxSan> ] E1115 18:03:33.750184881    3899 ssl_transport_security.c:970] Handshake failed with fatal error SSL_ERROR_SSL: error:10000410:SSL routines:OPENSSL_internal:SSLV3_ALERT_HANDSHAKE_FAILURE.
10:06 < MaxSan> this is the error im getting aakselrod
10:09 < paulo_> synching...
10:15 < aakselrod> paulo_: i'm resynchronizing my lnd right now but based on what i see now, it's 483... might be a bit different after sync is finished
10:16 < aakselrod> MaxSan: you have both standalone lnd and the app installed?
10:17 < MaxSan> that is just me running with npm start
10:17 < MaxSan> I havent packaged it up... should I?
10:17 < paulo_> umm, the testnet has a million blocks...
10:17 < MaxSan> I will and see I suppose lol
10:18 < aakselrod> paulo_: i have a full node synchronized to testnet, i'm just synchronizing lnd itself :)
10:18 < aakselrod> (using neutrino)
10:18 < aakselrod> actually i have 2-3 full nodes running on testnet right now heh
10:19 < aakselrod> ok it's synchronized, updating graph
10:20 < aakselrod> ok, now i see 496 channels open on testnet
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10:23 < paulo_> at block 600k...
10:24 < paulo_> i'm halfway there
10:24 < aakselrod> paulo_: are you syncing a full node?
10:25 < paulo_> aakselrod: i'm synching LND
10:25 < paulo_> um     
10:26 < paulo_> https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-app
10:26 < paulo_> am i on the right channel?
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10:28 < aakselrod> paulo_: yeah you're on the right channel. if you're synchronizing the lightning app, you're using a neutrino back-end (light client). should be pretty fast.
10:29 < paulo_> my internet's slow, I'm at block 800k in 30 mins
10:30 < aakselrod> ah     
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10:38 < paulo_> now at 1m...
10:38 < aakselrod> i don't think the app shows the number of channels in the entire graph (which is good because eventually every `lnd` node won't be keeping track of global state, just a subset of it)
10:38 < aakselrod> but if you're using command-line `lnd`, you can use `lncli describegraph | grep channel_id | wc -l` to count the number of active channels your `lnd` knows about
10:40 <@roasbeef> or just do `lncli describegraph`
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10:45 < paulo_> done
10:45 < paulo_> hmmm
10:45 < paulo_> i transfered coins from a faucet, UI isn't changing...
10:46 < aakselrod> it won't until they confirm
10:46 < aakselrod> there's an issue open for that
10:47 < paulo_> 6 confirmations?
10:50 < paulo_> or just 1?
10:50 < aakselrod> i think only 1 for receiving on-chain coins
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10:54 < MaxSan> aakselrod: pidgin crashed n never realised
10:54 < MaxSan> i tried packaging it up and still get the ssl error
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10:56 < paulo_> confirmed!
10:57 < MaxSan> oh also, faucet is down
11:00 < mlz> MaxSan, what do you need the faucet for?
11:01 < paulo_> payment failed :( no logs
11:01 < paulo_> "Payment route failure"
11:01 < MaxSan> I dont need the faucet, was just notifying :)
11:01 < MaxSan> I do need to know about this ssl error though :)
11:01 < lndbot> <djseeds> paulo_ have you opened a channel?
11:01 < paulo_> yes     
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11:06 < paulo_> i used this to open a channel: https://faucet.lightning.community/
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11:09 < lndbot> <djseeds> the opening transaction needs to confirm before you can use the channel, and then sometimes it helps to close and reopen the app
11:09 < paulo_> yep, it confirmed
11:09 < paulo_> opening & closing...
11:10 < paulo_> still failing. I opened a second channel.
11:10 < paulo_> how do I run the autopilot?
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11:28 <@roasbeef> no need to open/re-open the app, that would speed up confirmations on the chain lol
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11:30 <@roasbeef> it's on by default if you're running the application, blocks on testnet are slow though due to low hash rate, consistently 20 minutes apart
11:33 < lndbot> <djseeds> Lol, yeah it certainly wouldn’t help speed up confirmations, it just has sometimes fixed the “Payment route failure” for me when the channel is already fully opened.
11:35 <@roasbeef> that symptom is likely due to the fact that atm sending the final message in the process of generating the authentication proofs for a channel isnt fully reliable, but a PR to remedy that is in the works
11:36 <@roasbeef> that "chan_id: 0" symptom
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12:20 < paulo_> does and currently support multi hop payments?
12:20 < paulo_> *lnd
12:20 < paulo_> damn autocorrect
12:21 < paulo_> CID: 0 also for me
12:22 <@roasbeef> paulo_: yep
12:22 < paulo_> any fix? like restart the app?
12:23 <@roasbeef> a PR remedying that should be proposed soon, we've isolated the issue
12:23 < paulo_> wait, restarting gave one of channel a CID
12:23 <@roasbeef> do you have the logs within the app?
12:23 < paulo_> what's PR?
12:23 <@roasbeef> pull request
12:24 < paulo_> I have a CID, but payment route failure still :(
12:25 < paulo_> roasbeef: any specific part of the log you need?
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12:39 < paulo_> please send to this test wallet: lightning://lntb1u1pdqefsgpp5ndr0rgdyxyty8lvtx6wlrrz9kkr45vtymv2s9gnnyxd0ap3yt23qdq8w3jhxaqcqzysuks3k75a5aenl3ek6yrhlvhe53a9wljmuvlqexzxzyvy0ehnwujqkgays29r32ltlz25sa5wu8wtkm66cuxpys3l008ja457fszcstgppx9p2l
12:42 < paulo_> it's not really working but good job everyone :)
12:56 < shtirlic> did anyone had issues with ipv6?
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12:58 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: what issues are you having?
13:00 < shtirlic> actualy I i tried to pay via web based wallet, it failed and suggest to add node manualy
13:00 < shtirlic> i provided publick key and ipv6 public temp address
13:00 < shtirlic> it's failed too
13:01 < shtirlic> also there is a question about dns DNS discovery
13:03 < shtirlic> also would be great to have pair of public key and ip visible in interface UI
13:03 < shtirlic> as I understand lnd starting on :::
13:06 <@roasbeef> sorry, can you rephrase that? and note the precise issue?
13:06 <@roasbeef> you aren't able to connect to an outbound IPv6 address? are you con the command line?
13:11 < shtirlic> @roasbeef nope, inbound connection
13:11 <@roasbeef> are you forwarding the proper ports?
13:11 <@roasbeef> there's no NAT traversal implemented yet
13:11 < shtirlic> uPnP should work good?
13:11 < shtirlic> or it's not?
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13:15 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: uPnP isn't implemented yet, there's an issue: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/185
13:16 < shtirlic> oh i see it's great task, are go libs mature enough to start playing with?
13:20 < shtirlic> also I think DNS-SD with multicast zeroconf would be great
13:26 < shtirlic> @roasbeef how can i check that lnd listen to ipv6?
13:26 < shtirlic> i see log entry Server listening on [::]:9735
13:26 <@roasbeef> it will isten on all interface, if you're being a NAT, but aren't forwarding the port, then you won't be able to accept inbound connections atm
13:27 < shtirlic> but in netstat  i see only 0/0/128        *.9735
13:28 < shtirlic> @roasbeef it should not be true for public ipv6
13:28 < shtirlic> i will try telnet
13:32 < shtirlic> nope I checked with nmap
13:32 < shtirlic> nmap -v  -p 9735 localhost
13:32 < shtirlic> it's open via ipv5
13:32 < shtirlic> *ipv4
13:33 < shtirlic> but it's closed in ipv6
13:33 <@roasbeef> hmmm
13:33 < shtirlic> nmap -v -6 -p 9735 localhost
13:33 < shtirlic> and nestat says the same
13:35 < shtirlic> I had clones soruces and can start lnd with options
13:35 < shtirlic> to test this
13:35 < shtirlic> *clones
13:35 < shtirlic> lightning app source
13:36 < shtirlic> or maybe I can patch conf for lnd?
13:37 < shtirlic> lightning app says open ../lnd.conf: no such file or directory
13:37 < shtirlic> I guess it is using defaults
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14:05 < shtirlic> I had no luck makin lnd see lnd.conf
14:06 < shtirlic> in application support
14:06 < shtirlic> it's still says no open ../lnd.conf: no such file or directory
14:14 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: if you want to run with diff set of config options, you'll need to run lnd directly
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14:15 <@roasbeef> i was under the impression that a single listener could handle both, but we _might_ need to launch distinct listeners
14:18 < shtirlic> @roasbeef root case https://github.com/golang/go/issues/9334
14:18 < shtirlic> ?     
14:19 <@roasbeef> was just poking around that issue tracker as well :)
14:20 <@roasbeef> seems even if the underlying itnerface are dual-stack, it'll default to v4
14:21 < shtirlic> oh     
14:21 < shtirlic> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/9334#issuecomment-67098831
14:21 < shtirlic> Will listen on tcp6 if it's dual-stack system.
14:23 < shtirlic> it's important thing because ipv6 with public address will not have issues with NAT
14:24 < shtirlic> and pears on ipv6 will simply working out of the box
14:25 <@roasbeef> mhmm
14:25 <@roasbeef> iirc, we _do_ leave out the host name tho
14:25  * roasbeef checks
14:26 < shtirlic> @roasbeef yeeh if we pass just ''
14:26 < shtirlic> it should work
14:26 < shtirlic> https://github.com/wincent/clipper/commit/ae2800d534d0d60cc422c0ea23f2fd5c64898338
14:26 <@roasbeef> no port?
14:26 <@roasbeef> iirc we pass ':9735' atm
14:26 < shtirlic>  +	defaults.Address = "" // IPv4/IPv6 loopback.
14:27 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/lnd.go#L230
14:28 < aakselrod> and https://github.com/wincent/clipper/commit/ae2800d534d0d60cc422c0ea23f2fd5c64898338#diff-3e34e6f7db69fccb577aa6db5c4643efR236
14:28 < aakselrod> addr = fmt.Sprintf("%s:%d", settings.Address, settings.Port)
14:30 < shtirlic> ok, as I start lnd without options is says
14:30 < shtirlic> password RPC server listening on 127.0.0.1:10009
14:30 < shtirlic> localhost:8080
14:30 < shtirlic> it's reverse resolve?
14:31 < shtirlic> or this host hardcoded somehow?
14:33 < shtirlic> on linux it's working? I can check on docker image
14:33 < shtirlic> but I had no idea of how to feed ipv6 real address inside docker container
14:36 < shtirlic> https://github.com/golang/net/blob/master/ipv6/example_test.go
14:37 < shtirlic>  +	ln, err := net.Listen("tcp", "[::]:1024")
14:38 < shtirlic> as i Understood
14:38 < shtirlic> it will be dual stack listner
14:38 < shtirlic> pass tcp
14:38 < shtirlic> "[::]:9735"
14:38 < shtirlic> @roasbeef may you check this?
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16:13 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: RPC is hard coded to localhost atm
16:13 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: if you're running on the command line, you can pass that in as a custom listen arg
16:14 < shtirlic> @roasbeef i double checked everything and it seems running on dual
16:14 < shtirlic> sudo lsof -PiTCP -sTCP:LISTEN | grep IPv6
16:14 <@roasbeef> noice
16:14 <@roasbeef> by passing that in manually?
16:14 < shtirlic> lnd        6286 shtirlic   33u  IPv6 0xb211b78939cc2b5f      0t0  TCP *:9735 (LISTEN)
16:14 < shtirlic> nope just as is
16:15 < shtirlic> but in grps
16:15 <@roasbeef> ?     
16:15 <@roasbeef> so it _does_ work currently?
16:15 < shtirlic> @roasbeef i am setting up another node in aws to check
16:15 <@roasbeef> cool thx, for looking into this!
16:15 < shtirlic> ports and so on
16:16 < shtirlic> thx for great work
16:20 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #231: Add retransmission subsystem in channel link (master...retransmission_in_channellink) https://git.io/vQPXC
16:21 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #332: funding: adding to topology after fundinglocked, private channels, chanAnn after 6 confs (master...channelGraph) https://git.io/v5Htm
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16:50 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #322: De-duplicate announcements in the AuthenticatedGossiper -#275 (master...275) https://git.io/v5oCP
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17:03 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] stridentbean opened pull request #418: Many lines in the sample config were mission the section prefix. With… (master...update_sample_lnd_config) https://git.io/vF1DD
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18:07 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #419: peer: avoid blocked writeHandler<->queueHandler interaction (master...sendqueue-stall) https://git.io/vF1QJ
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18:28 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/vF17I
18:28 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 2b052cc Olaoluwa Osuntokun: routing: only update the filter if we have a non-zero chain view...
18:28 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master f189e23 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: routing: if the graph has never been pruned, prune with current height...
18:28 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 1be2a2a Olaoluwa Osuntokun: rpc: display HTLC amount in satoshis in ListChannels response...
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18:45 < jhh> sup     
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18:54 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vF15o
18:54 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 555cead Johan T. Halseth: peer: avoid blocked writeHandler<->queueHandler interaction...
19:08 < shtirlic> wow got this
19:08 < shtirlic> CMGR: Failed to connect to %!v(PANIC=runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference): no addresses found for 4zhkir2ofl7orfom.onion
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23:01 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: oooOO, someone messing with hidden services ^_^
23:02 <@roasbeef> shtirlic: so did that modification work for the dual stack systems?
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