--- Day changed Sat Nov 18 2017 00:10 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #lnd 00:13 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #lnd 00:35 -!- Peppi [~Peppi@unaffiliated/peppi] has joined #lnd 00:37 -!- Peppi [~Peppi@unaffiliated/peppi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 01:23 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 01:24 -!- booyah_ [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 01:24 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54 < melik> hey guys :) 02:29 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 02:52 -!- melik [615a2a22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.90.42.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:12 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 04:14 -!- booyah_ [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18 -!- mnkk___ [~mnk4@95.90.233.42] has joined #lnd 04:24 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@079-170-138-089-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-178-095-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 04:46 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:15 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:15 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 05:36 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:37 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 06:21 -!- kbgg [189b499f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.155.73.159] has joined #lnd 06:42 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 06:51 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hztpaukupglgyaej] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:01 -!- booyah_ [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 07:01 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 07:14 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:37 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-53.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 07:38 -!- cdecker [~cdecker@mail.snyke.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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Spent an hour creating a simple graph visualization of the channel network. Another hour later and still struggling to host it without having to buy an SSL certificate (and not having to setup Let's Encrypt). 16:13 < stevenroose> Why can't browsers chill out for once? 16:56 < stevenroose> Gave up, Let's Encrypt it is: https://stevenroose.github.io/lightninggraph/ 17:21 -!- bchma is now known as Bosma 17:34 -!- B0g4r7_ [~B0g4r7@208.76.201.166] has joined #lnd 17:37 < kbgg> Is there a reason why the rpc service is hardcoded to only listen on the localhost interface? 17:39 < mlz> stevenroose, nice! 17:58 <@roasbeef> stevenroose: are you filtering out a subset of channels? 17:58 <@roasbeef> kbgg: no particular reason, there's a pending PR to address that 17:59 < stevenroose> roasbeef: nope, I guess my node just doesn't find more peers 17:59 < stevenroose> Also, my autopilot fails to create any channels. Manually to the faucet also fails. I guess I'm just incompatible 17:59 < stevenroose> latest master 17:59 <@roasbeef> many nodes are running prior versions, breaking changes to a few messages have been made since then 17:59 <@roasbeef> regardless of that, you should have between 300 and 800 channels 18:00 <@roasbeef> know of* 18:00 <@roasbeef> lncli getnetworkinfo 18:01 < stevenroose> 293 nodes 233 channels 18:01 < stevenroose> The green one is the faucet in the graph. 18:01 < lndbot> I have 302 nodes, 296 channels 18:02 <@roasbeef> looks to be way less than 200-300 on the graph tho? at a glance 18:03 <@roasbeef> faucet has 11 channels atm, you're rendering 5 of them? 18:03 <@roasbeef> cool graph tho :D 18:05 < lndbot> i just updated my node, it has different numbers 18:05 < lndbot> "num_nodes": 257, "num_channels": 160, 18:06 <@roasbeef> diff view depending on if you've lived through some of the crazy re-orgs, your zombie prune interval, how old the node is, if you have the legacy format, etc 18:14 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ssihstfpsrgoyxpy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:16 < stevenroose> nodes without channels are left out 18:16 < stevenroose> Is a channel with capacity 0 possible? 18:17 <@roasbeef> nope... 18:17 < stevenroose> Just to make sure. I filtered on that. 18:18 < stevenroose> Node lib is vis.js, somehow it's suuperslow to load 18:20 < lndbot> roasbeef, does autopilot still make a node automatically open random channels? 18:21 < stevenroose> moli from the logs it seems like it does, but it is not very succesful in my case 18:21 <@roasbeef> not precisely "random", but yeh, thing is though, if you're running on master, then channel opening message has changed, so unupgraded nodes will reject all your requests, causing them all to fail 18:21 < lndbot> i haven't seen autopilot do this on my nodes for a long time 18:21 < stevenroose> roasbeef: if you could connect to 02f6d66509f7ef98d9470ab5dc3998f8785112c545f86e50b9811772a9166f99dc@lightning.roose.io, our channel views would sync, right? 18:28 <@roasbeef> there ya go 18:30 <@roasbeef> gonna close that extended channel as soon as it's opened btw, doing dev on this node so will be very flappy 18:30 <@roasbeef> still seems like you're filtering out a lot of edges, compare what you render, to `lncli decribegraph --render` 18:34 < stevenroose> [lncli] exec: "dot": executable file not found in $PATH 18:35 <@roasbeef> ah yeh need to add a better error message, you need to have graphiz installed 18:36 < stevenroose> Yeah got there :p 18:37 < stevenroose> Wow, that is ugly :D 18:39 <@roasbeef> heheh yeh it is, need to remove the scaling/weigiting I tried to do 18:39 <@roasbeef> but see how that's much bigger than what you're currently rendering? 18:40 < stevenroose> Off to bed though, 4 am here 18:40 <@roasbeef> fshoo 18:54 -!- T_ [1806a0b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.6.160.178] has joined #lnd 18:59 -!- T_ [1806a0b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.6.160.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:01 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 19:03 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 19:25 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 19:25 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 19:33 < lndbot> roasbeef, i hope autopilot will only be for auto connect to peers and not auto opening channels, or that would be like you're on windows and suddenly microsoft autoupdate your computer and restart your computer, like a trojan virus 20:34 -!- kbgg [189b499f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.155.73.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:40 -!- Rozal [uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrspjknbksmctkwm] has joined #lnd 20:40 < Rozal> someone open a channel with me now! 20:41 < Rozal> I need lightcoins 20:41 < buZz> sorry, wouldnt have pointed Rozal here if i knew he was only trolling 20:41 < Rozal> stop, it's humor while asking something at the same time 20:51 < lndbot> rozal you need to post your address 20:52 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:52 < Rozal> 2NAve36HJjhmCuCjt6HP5Wpy75SE2UGEaeX 20:52 < Styil> yo, anyone mind trying to open a channel with me] 20:53 < mlz> y'all can open a channel with lightning.bitrefill.com 20:54 < mlz> and play with buying minutes, it will give you an invoice, then you pay 20:54 < mlz> ask justin for the pubkey 20:55 < Styil> I mean testnet stuff 20:55 < Styil> Rozal, you asking for testnet coin? 20:55 < lndbot> moli do you know the bitrefill pubkey? 20:55 < Rozal> yes 20:55 < Styil> I gotchu 20:58 < Styil> 2NAve36HJjhmCuCjt6HP5Wpy75SE2UGEaeX is your address, correct Rozal? 20:58 < Rozal> yesw 20:58 < Styil> sent 20:58 < Styil> should be in the next block 20:59 < Styil> https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/address/2NAve36HJjhmCuCjt6HP5Wpy75SE2UGEaeX/ 20:59 < Rozal> testnet block? 20:59 < Styil> ye 20:59 < lndbot> @jimmymow nope, justin got a new pubkey 20:59 < lndbot> dang 20:59 < Rozal> when you say 'yo' and 'ye' I picture you with your hat backwards 21:00 < lndbot> lol 21:00 < Styil> anyways does anyone here have experience with the so called "Lightning App?" 21:01 < lndbot> yea, it sucks 21:01 < Rozal> received 21:01 < lndbot> sorry roasbeef but that's how i feel :P 21:02 < Rozal> 034e3563dfba96e2cbb868248d6e4119f70f68053e43814f8d14687f6d0172d2de 21:02 < Rozal> my pub key, someone open a channel 21:03 < lndbot> https://blog.bitrefill.com/lightning-payments-on-testnet-for-bitrefill-b3edac845654 21:03 < lndbot> Updated stuff there 21:03 < lndbot> Rozal you can open a channel with 039757e4466c57948cdbd8f5e9cbb05266ee421638cb4a82db5b8ae363fd4c3a3a@45.63.87.131 21:04 < mlz> guys, here's bitrefill blog with the guide how to play with it: https://blog.bitrefill.com/lightning-payments-on-testnet-for-bitrefill-b3edac845654 21:04 < Styil> do I need to open up any ports to recieve transactions? 21:05 < Styil> recieve channels I mean 21:05 < Rozal> wow the app does suck 21:05 < lndbot> lncli connect 035d2b8a040262840586004ed01cd3b9c79f4e71891ec739e1a037ae1c69c3bf7e@lnd.bitrefill.com 21:06 < lndbot> lncli openchannel --node_key 035d2b8a040262840586004ed01cd3b9c79f4e71891ec739e1a037ae1c69c3bf7e --local_amt 16000000 --push_amt 0 21:06 < Rozal> do you need to wait for confirmations when opening LN channel 21:06 < lndbot> Yeah 21:06 < lndbot> I’m on master 21:07 < lndbot> rozal I see the pending channel on my side 21:07 < Rozal> my balance seems to have zero'd out, I guess that will return when channel opens? 21:07 < lndbot> https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/306c1427f5cf818fbd7f0f10181292f7e708f13c84a4d73bf58a7604e99e5767 21:08 < lndbot> lnd doesn’t show change outputs as part of your balance 21:08 < Styil> ye, use a block explorer 21:08 < Rozal> So if I have 1.00btc and use .50 btc to open a pending channel, all 1.00btc will be unspendable? 21:08 < Styil> I just noticed the same thing 21:09 < lndbot> Rozal no it’s not unspendable 21:09 < Styil> Err, not exactly 21:09 < lndbot> just lnd doesn’t show it 21:09 < Rozal> I see 21:09 < lndbot> Ah yes probably down 21:09 < lndbot> lnd won’t let you make any more channels though 21:10 < lndbot> you can only make 1 per utxo per confirmation 21:10 < Rozal> 1 channel = 1 utxo? 21:10 < lndbot> it won’t let you use unconfirmed change outputs to create new channels 21:11 < lndbot> you need to wait for the change to confirm 21:11 < Rozal> but you could run two clients to run multiple channels if needed tho? 21:11 < lndbot> or just have more utxos 21:11 < Rozal> ok 21:11 < lndbot> or just wait for a confirm 21:12 < lndbot> should be about 10 minutes 21:12 < Rozal> where are we chatting from that a bot is required to relay? 21:13 < mlz> from lnd slack 21:13 < Styil> ah 21:14 < Styil> I want to see if I can open a channel directly with you Rozal as well 21:14 < Styil> do I need to port forward or something if I am using the Lightning App? 21:15 < lndbot> you can only connect to someone’s node if you know their IP and they are not behind a firewall/nat 21:15 < lndbot> 9735 I think? 21:18 < mlz> alex this is yalls.org node, correct? 039757e4466c57948cdbd8f5e9cbb05266ee421638cb4a82db5b8ae363fd4c3a3a@45.63.87.131 21:19 < mlz> alexbosworth ^ 21:19 < lndbot> that is https://htlc.me/ 21:19 < mlz> oh, thanks 21:21 < lndbot> Rozal channel opened you can pay me now 21:21 < mlz> lol 21:22 < mlz> Rozal, try yalls.org, you'll love it 21:22 < lndbot> money please lntb10n1pdpz9gvpp55u0mwmrzpv9pzauepa22gtg2sl3vx8npcnvphsenvhrxmn4a8t2sdz40v3xwetwv4exjc6ld9jzyw3zvdskyvf5vyurwtf3xgmr2tf5xsmnjtfexe3rwtfcvgcxvefsvd3kvcfjxc386cqzyscuuwyfxrkcz4kv6rm3ymxjfksmtml9uyfp593urmjt874hg32nnxwmrqg3fhmytmlltcu2f9mhgfvg27gwvvj4na0m7fplg7zkmy63sqf5wk4s 21:22 < mlz> lol 21:23 < Styil> Rozal, can you generate a payment request for 20000 satoshi and send it to me? 21:23 < lndbot> if he only has a channel that has coins going outbound then he can’t get any coins inbound 21:26 < Styil> hmm 21:26 < lndbot> He can pay me 20000 and then you can pay 20000 back to him 21:27 < lndbot> bidirectional channel setup isn’t ready yet 21:30 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37 < Rozal> I can't seem to open a second channel 21:37 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 21:38 < Rozal> alexbosworth, did I open a channel with you? 21:38 < lndbot> yeah, did you try paying that payment above? 21:38 < Rozal> lndbot> Rozal you can open a channel with 039757e4466c57948cdbd8f5e9cbb05266ee421638cb4a82db5b8ae363fd4c3a3a@45.63.87.131 21:39 < lndbot> looks like I lost you as a peer Rozal 21:39 < Rozal> alexbosworth, I am closing the channel. 21:39 < lndbot> oh wait nm 21:39 < lndbot> why? 21:39 < Rozal> alexbosworth, is it safe to say the app is fairly buggy 21:40 < Rozal> im trying to connect a channel to yalls 21:40 < lndbot> oh ok 21:40 < lndbot> you don’t need to close you know 21:41 < lndbot> it’s a lot less buggy than the first version 21:41 < Rozal> well, when I add the pub key for the channel, and then click 'create channel' it does nothing 21:41 < lndbot> it is fair to say that it has some issues 21:41 < Rozal> furthermore, when I try to close your channel with the red 'X', it will say "closing..." then go back to "Active" 21:42 < lndbot> Rozal did you try paying the above payment request? 21:42 < Rozal> what address to send to? 21:42 < lndbot> Rozal lntb10n1pdpzxw3pp5yaldncmky2rm6zzuczpprgaf6ftv0zr0vfpkvdl7t3k7s8v2qdvsdz40v3xwetwv4exjc6ld9jzyw3zxservdf5x33kytfjvcukztf5v4nrytfe8pjrjttzxuuxydr9x33nqepevy386cqzysjyuz37uuw9g9457ndnmry0e0zn993ly9re00e0whj5r5q27szr39m025j7da3azz7vv9fhfqsgd75k50hsfd4kwtj8uhg303lc9cfegpt9lmty 21:44 < Rozal> alexbosworth - that is the payment address? 21:44 < lndbot> yeah 21:44 < Rozal> "Payment route failure" 21:44 < lndbot> maybe because of the close channel thing :( 21:44 < Rozal> seems like console command LN is much more satisfying? 21:45 < lndbot> It’s not all that different 21:45 < lndbot> The desktop app is just a visual wrapper on the console version 21:45 < Rozal> the source is posted on GitHub, the desktop app could use some skulls with flames 21:47 < Rozal> I give it a wack tomorrow - thanks for the help alexbosworth, mlz, Styil 21:47 < Styil> so from my understanding, a lightning address is just my pubkey@hostname? 21:47 < Styil> Hold up Rozal, one last thing if you dont mind 21:49 < Styil> could someone open up a channel with me 21:49 < Styil> ? 21:50 < Rozal> I think of it in terms of WoW. 21:51 < Rozal> Lightning address is like the Realm/server. Once in the realm, you can connect to players in the realm via chat/channels via the username/handle (wallet address) 21:52 < Rozal> probably a bad analogy good night 21:55 < lndbot> ah seemed to have shutdown 21:56 < lndbot> back up, connected to alex 21:57 < lndbot> wat: ubuntu@ip-172-31-19-22:~/bitcoin$ lncli openchannel 039757e4466c57948cdbd8f5e9cbb05266ee421638cb4a82db5b8ae363fd4c3a3a 16000000 0 [lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = not enough witness outputs to create funding transaction, need 0.16 BTC only have 0 BTC available ubuntu@ip-172-31-19-22:~/bitcoin$ lncli walletbalance { "balance": "65000000" } 22:20 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 22:53 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:57 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #lnd 23:31 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 23:58 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd