--- Day changed Wed Dec 13 2017 00:14 -!- JohnWayne_ [5e8fbdfd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.143.189.253] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:25 -!- dan_jen1 [~dan_jen1@63-234-34-226.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:28 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd55d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lnd 00:32 -!- dan_jen1 [~dan_jen1@63.234.34.226] has joined #lnd 00:41 -!- [a]akselrod [~aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:48 -!- aakselrod [~aakselrod@2601:281:c702:8621:7892:3d78:336e:8f85] has joined #lnd 00:54 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 01:07 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has joined #lnd 01:12 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-asuukgnoghxecexx] has joined #lnd 01:22 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 01:24 -!- alreadylate [~textual@37-247-1-221.customers.ownit.se] has joined #lnd 01:25 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has joined #lnd 01:25 < alreadylate> is it possible to top-up lightning channels? what happens if i send coins to an existing channel (ie. to the multisig address) ? 01:32 -!- jerbil [uid28187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fzxxozutawmavuzv] has quit [] 02:04 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has joined #lnd 02:14 < cluelessperson> Serious question, I've seen people complain that you'd have to "commit" funds ot the lightning channel first 02:14 < cluelessperson> requiring a bitcoin transaction merely to open a lightning channel 02:14 < cluelessperson> how do we get around this? 02:14 < cluelessperson> because I'm not sure the entwork can support that 02:21 < tumi> cluelessperson: why not? 02:26 < cluelessperson> tumi: I guess it depends on how long channels stay open 02:26 < cluelessperson> tumi: Look at the network now. Currently the average TX costs $5 in fees 02:26 < cluelessperson> and it's not mainstream yet 02:27 < molz> oh man.. another silly question, serioulsy, cluelessperson ? 02:27 < sandeep> I think channels are intended to stay open until theres a conflict 02:27 < molz> could you please just do your own reading or run an lnd node? 02:27 < cluelessperson> hm 02:27 < cluelessperson> sorry 02:28 < cluelessperson> I'm asking because I havne't had time yet 02:28 < cluelessperson> and I see questionsa bout lightning that I cannot answer yet 02:31 < cjd[m]> cluelessperson: Basically the idea is that you would have a channel open with your provider of choice (probably an exchange) and they would keep channels with other providers in order that there's always a path through the lightning network from you to anyone you want to pay. So the transaction fee is like the cost of installing internet, you put in one wire and then you can communicate with anyone. 02:33 < tumi> cluelessperson: you are correct, it will require a transaction which are now expensive, but the idea is that you reuse that channel many times saving you the on-chain transactions you would otherwise have made. Nevertheless, the amount of opening and closing of channels is limited and subject to fees just like transactions on chain are 02:41 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwtokgyjrxvesuwq] has joined #lnd 03:10 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has joined #lnd 03:10 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18 -!- mareksip [c154244a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.84.36.74] has joined #lnd 03:39 -!- fronti [~fronti@irc.fh-biergarten.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:52 -!- fronti [~fronti@irc.fh-biergarten.de] has joined #lnd 03:55 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:58 < alreadylate> now that everyone is awake :) 03:58 < alreadylate> i'll repeat a question i dropped here a few days ago 03:58 < alreadylate> is it possible to top-up lightning channels? what happens if i send coins to an existing channel (ie. to the multisig address) ? 03:58 < alreadylate> (a few hours*) 04:00 < alreadylate> cjd[m] that is actually a great way of thinking about it. like "installing internet" cost 04:02 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:03 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 04:03 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:03 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 04:14 -!- mareksip [c154244a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.84.36.74] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:20 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 04:20 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:22 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:26 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Quit: sdfgsdfg] 04:31 < cjd[m]> the analogy is not perfect, you'll need a new transaction to add more funds, but it captures the general idea I think 04:43 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:44 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@73.248.248.9] has joined #lnd 04:44 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@73.248.248.9] has quit [Changing host] 04:44 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 04:54 -!- bityogi [~textual@208-104-132-26.brvd.dsl.dyn.comporium.net] has joined #lnd 04:58 -!- creslin1 [5d493c74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.73.60.116] has joined #lnd 04:59 -!- creslin1 [5d493c74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.73.60.116] has quit [Client Quit] 04:59 -!- jerbil [uid28187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdxdbnhhmoiruyfz] has joined #lnd 05:01 -!- creslin_ [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 05:01 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mplvkqilautnfmop] has joined #lnd 05:06 < creslin_> hI, im planning on spending a couple days discovering btcd and lnd from a sysadmin perspective, coming from a bitcoind node hosting background. I have a query Is the roasbeef version of btcd still required for segwit or will the main branch now suffice? thanks. 05:23 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:26 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has joined #lnd 05:28 < fronti> i know, not exactly pur lnd and not really important but can someone explain me the "open channels" in this page? https://explorer.acinq.co/#/n/02464bfaaae78b98268a6a6d7e8f6a110c60dd1293811d6029b11ee9edb4bbf869 according to lncli getinfo there are only 4 open channels.. and if i search for active false there are aslo not 80 channels :) i did not understand how to interprete the site. 05:35 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@62.90-149-73.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:36 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:36 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:46 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@62.90-149-73.nextgentel.com] has joined #lnd 05:52 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@181.120.130.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20 -!- arubi_ [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 06:23 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:33 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwtokgyjrxvesuwq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:46 < lightningbot4> roasbeef version still required 07:12 -!- Anand [7aabe70f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.171.231.15] has joined #lnd 07:17 -!- Anand [7aabe70f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.171.231.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:20 -!- guest9983238 [058674cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.134.116.205] has joined #lnd 07:21 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has joined #lnd 07:21 -!- guest9983238 [058674cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.134.116.205] has quit [Client Quit] 07:23 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has joined #lnd 07:44 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:47 -!- zamza [~zamza@c-67-180-251-13.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:49 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@KD111103034253.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 07:51 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has joined #lnd 07:57 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:57 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has joined #lnd 08:07 -!- sovjet_ is now known as sovjet 08:19 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-asuukgnoghxecexx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:20 < AndyS2> roasbeef: thanks. sorry for the late reply. Maybe it was clear, but I wanted someone to open a channel with amazon to fund my channel because then,they could do ONE tx with 25 bitcoin to refill multiple channels at once, paying the tx fee just once, but refilling many channels 08:21 < AndyS2> might be some real life scaling that we hopefully don't need in the future, but in the meantime, why not share the costs of refilling lightning channels :) 08:21 < AndyS2> (refilling/rebalancing) 08:23 < creslin_> Question to the room: Will lnd daemon work against bitcoind from core, (which has segwit) or is lnd specific to btcd(roasbeef branch) only. 08:25 < aakselrod> creslin_: there's a WIP PR to make it work with bitcoind, i'll be writing up instructions on testing it in the next day or two 08:26 -github-neutrino:#lnd- [neutrino] aakselrod pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb28Q 08:26 -github-neutrino:#lnd- neutrino/master c3eb1fb Alex: rescan: send On(Filtered)BlockConnected ntfns in correct order 08:26 -github-neutrino:#lnd- neutrino/master 8f4194d Alex: blockmanager: change logging severity and text of "waiting for more" message 08:27 < creslin_> @aakselrod thanks 08:35 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@KD111103034253.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 08:50 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 08:53 -!- creslin_ [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:07 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84.10.11.234] has joined #lnd 09:10 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@gateway/tor-sasl/sovjet] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 09:34 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has quit [Quit: sandeep] 09:41 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mplvkqilautnfmop] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:59 -!- alreadylate [~textual@37-247-1-221.customers.ownit.se] has quit [] 10:06 -!- arubi_ is now known as arubi 10:14 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] MaartenTutak closed pull request #475: docs: Update README to correctly indicate the default number of requi… (master...master) https://git.io/vbE87 10:27 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vabvxrinxehuevvt] has joined #lnd 10:31 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 10:31 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] MaartenTutak opened pull request #483: docs: Update README to correctly indicate the default number of requi… (master...docs_update) https://git.io/vb2Ku 10:31 < YungMoonHodler> what do you think about the arguments laid out in this article? https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the-lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling-solution-1b8147650800 10:32 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] MaartenTutak opened pull request #484: Java grpc example (master...java_grpc_example) https://git.io/vb2KK 10:41 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 10:41 -!- JohnWayne_ [8d87914b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.135.145.75] has joined #lnd 10:43 -!- bityogi [~textual@208-104-132-26.brvd.dsl.dyn.comporium.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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many cases there are 6 tx needed.. 12:24 -!- alreadylate [~textual@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has quit [] 12:28 <@roasbeef> fronti: one tx as in one transaction, you can do this w/o distrupting the channel as the money is chained thru mult-sigs, and the prior commitments are revoked 12:28 <@roasbeef> when opening/closing you'd want to wait a number of confs as normal 12:28 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 12:28 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 12:29 <@roasbeef> when you open a channel atm in the protocol, the receiver requests a number of confirmations before they'll start to use it 12:29 < fronti> ok thanks understand now better 12:29 <@roasbeef> see funding_locked in the spec 12:31 -!- alreadylate [~textual@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has joined #lnd 12:33 -!- alreadylate [~textual@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:37 -!- alreadylate [~textual@46.39.118.13] has joined #lnd 12:41 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README to note correct number of default confs for chan open/close 15:32 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbaYQ 15:32 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 3f2f74b Ben Congdon: docs: fix python path typo ... 15:38 -!- bityogi [~textual@208-104-132-26.brvd.dsl.dyn.comporium.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44 -!- alreadylate [~textual@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has quit [] 15:55 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #433: Improve Consistency of Logging and Actions in peerTerminationWatcher (master...persistent-conn-mgr) https://git.io/vF92Z 15:57 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:57 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 15:57 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:57 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 15:57 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:03 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #485: WIP: testcase+fix fornegative balance could happen in channel.go (master...fix-negative-balance) https://git.io/vbas9 16:04 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@68.100.207.91] has joined #lnd 16:05 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 16:32 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd55d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:32 < cluelessperson> molz: guess what, today is the night of my last final, I'll be able to spend my free time playing with lightning. :) 16:42 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] cfromknecht opened pull request #486: lnd_test: invoice subscription cancel lingering goroutine (master...invoice-itest-cancel) https://git.io/vban0 16:43 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@181.120.130.102] has quit [Ping 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(master...master) https://git.io/vbaC7 17:17 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbaWJ 17:17 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master a036098 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: chains: increase default MInHTLC value to 1000 mSAT (1 SAT) 17:17 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 5e5cc9b Olaoluwa Osuntokun: lnwallet: add new method to register our preferred minHTLC value... 17:17 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master bdfbda6 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: funding: register our desired minHTLC value during the funding flow... 17:18 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] anaoum closed pull request #487: Store the payment preImage rather than rHash. (master...master) https://git.io/vbaC7 17:19 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 17:20 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 17:20 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] anaoum opened pull request #488: Store the payment preImage rather than rHash. 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http://znc.in] 19:55 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 19:56 -!- snadge [~snadge@2404:9400:1::6d7:0:1] has joined #lnd 19:56 -!- snadge [~snadge@2404:9400:1::6d7:0:1] has quit [Changing host] 19:56 -!- snadge [~snadge@unaffiliated/snadge] has joined #lnd 20:07 -!- it13579 [~androirc@49.213.19.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:18 <@roasbeef> sooo many zombies: [INF] CRTR: Pruning 714 Zombie Channels 20:21 < molz> lol 20:21 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejacnovcrxycfqcz] has joined #lnd 20:23 < molz> there're still 1359 channels right now 20:26 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejacnovcrxycfqcz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:35 <@roasbeef> it bounces every 30-60 mins or so 20:35 <@roasbeef> not all the other implemetnations prune 20:35 <@roasbeef> i might add optimistic pruning 20:35 <@roasbeef> lnd is doing. 20:40 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:43 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oodyvsjjqfchmyec] has joined #lnd 20:57 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 21:10 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 21:16 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has joined #lnd 21:49 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has joined #lnd 22:04 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:10 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 22:14 < melik> where can i get some coins on testnet? 22:14 < melik> can someone send me some please :) 22:16 < sandeep> /topic, the faucet link 22:16 < melik> nvm, found a faucet :P 22:16 < melik> heh sorry 22:17 < melik> i'm syncing testnet right now; 3 years 48 weeks behind.. :d 22:40 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oodyvsjjqfchmyec] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:44 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrygtttfzqivkntj] has joined #lnd 22:44 <@roasbeef> melik: or just google testne faucet to get some actual testnet coins 22:44 < melik> yep 22:44 <@roasbeef> sync the chain, one must do 22:44 < melik> thats what i did 22:45 < melik> 92 weeks left 22:45 < melik> almost there 22:45 <@roasbeef> validate the weeks, requirement it is 22:45 < melik> getting ready for friday i see :p 22:46 <@roasbeef> what is friday, but the bridge between saturday and sunday? 22:46 < melik> never mind, i thought you were speaking like yoda heh 22:47 < melik> new star wars film comes out on friday 22:48 <@roasbeef> a new film, on saturday it premiers 22:48 <@roasbeef> the bag, one must obtain 22:49 < melik> 82 weeks 22:49 -!- Styils [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 22:49 <@roasbeef> if a node does not have the chain, the it is lost. but the same node can be lost in the chain. 22:49 <@roasbeef> then* 22:51 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrygtttfzqivkntj] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:51 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:56 < melik> roasbeef, do you know if there are any lightning-network apps for iOS ? 22:56 <@roasbeef> there're a few, none really past the demo stage afaik 22:57 <@roasbeef> a dev submitted one to the app store a day or two ago: https://github.com/simonhorlick/balance 22:57 <@roasbeef> uses gombile to package up lnd on both mobile platforms 22:58 <@roasbeef> we'll have an initial version out soon-ish with some additional backend goodies 22:59 <@roasbeef> neutrino needs a good be of optimization to work smoothly on mobile platforms first tho 22:59 < melik> sweet sounds good 22:59 <@roasbeef> it works atm, but is a bit of a resource hog, we've profiled and know where the bottlenecks are, just some higher prio stuff to get out of the way first 22:59 < melik> roasbeef, so how soon do you think all of this will all be ready for real-use on mainnet? 22:59 < melik> i know you guys are all doing amazing work 23:01 < Styils> I hear February will start mainnet testing 23:01 < Styils> though dont quote me on that 23:01 < melik> of course not 23:01 < Styils> sometime early next year 23:01 -!- Styils is now known as Styil 23:01 < melik> thats awesome roasbeef 23:02 < melik> can't wait man.. can't wait :D 23:02 <@roasbeef> lnd is doing. 23:02 < melik> 37 weeks 23:03 <@roasbeef> later, 37 weeks 23:12 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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