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[~cubiceart@c-73-68-232-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:32 <@roasbeef> tst 10:40 <@roasbeef> wow insane packet loss 10:42 -!- EmperorSeptim [uid265175@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjrdsqfsjziygafm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:43 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:47 <@roasbeef> test 11:17 < spudowiar> Off topic but I don't we were talking about the Ledger yesterday... Ported pong to the Ledger's MCU :) https://twitter.com/spudowiar/status/947546674540490753 11:17 < spudowiar> Since the SE is still bricked 11:20 < spudowiar> @justin ^^ Makes your Ledger 200% more secure, guaranteed 11:35 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 11:58 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #lnd 12:09 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:23 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 12:23 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 13:17 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 13:32 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-unfrhealheghpbah] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 13:51 -!- onryo [~rev@unaffiliated/onryo] has joined #lnd 13:52 < onryo> Anyway to run lnd on bitcoind? 13:57 -!- slave [~gfuwhlci@node-7j2.pool-101-51.dynamic.totbb.net] has joined #lnd 13:57 < slave> DOES YOUR DICK GET HARD THINKING ABOUT NIGGERS 13:57 < slave> BEING SLAVES ONCE AGAIN?? PLEASE GO TO 13:57 < slave> #/JOIN ON FREENODE AND ASK FOR VAP0R 13:57 < slave> FOR MORE INFORMATION ON A GROWING MOVEMENT 13:57 < slave> TO RE-ENSLAVE NIGGERS!! 13:57 < slave> onryo meshcollider Giszmo Styil quitobro deusexbeer Compy_ lio17 whphhg bird_ eamonnw jchia_1 rabidus TD-Linux iwkse kemyd_ jrick ninjahamstah arubi wxss cryptosoap pioklo Ylbam sovjet ghost43 takinbo simlay yoink SevenTimes kjellberg usil provoostenator sdfgsdfg PaulCapestany Elite-Epochs Zouppen 13:57 -!- slave [~gfuwhlci@node-7j2.pool-101-51.dynamic.totbb.net] has left #lnd [] 13:58 < Styil> @molz 13:58 < onryo> classy 13:58 < Styil> ban this fool 14:13 -!- jerbil [uid28187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfhceazolaifhqyy] has joined #lnd 14:20 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 14:44 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:05 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:06 -!- aakselrod [~aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:16 -!- parco [~parco@pool-72-88-85-49.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 15:16 -!- parco [~parco@pool-72-88-85-49.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:35 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 15:35 < spudowiar> o/ 15:39 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 15:39 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #lnd 15:40 <@molz> pfft some people 15:40 <@molz> onryo, yes, i'm running two lnd nodes with bitcoind right now, it only works on linux atm 15:41 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Client Quit] 15:42 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #lnd 15:42 <@molz> onryo, here's how to do it: https://gist.github.com/aakselrod/5644b9319041a796ba6ffca28062376e 15:42 < onryo> molz, I can run lnd with bitcoind "out of the box" ? I am using Debian GNU/Linux 15:42 < onryo> molz, nice thx 15:43 <@molz> yea it's a patch, so if you have lnd install, just follow that guide 15:43 <@molz> installed* 15:43 < onryo> molz, anything that is broken? 15:44 <@molz> onryo, what do you mean? 15:44 < onryo> molz, has it been stable and working well? 15:45 <@molz> yes 15:45 <@molz> need to make sure you have ZMQ in bitcoind 15:46 -!- wxss [~user@85.10.51.64] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:47 < onryo> molz, one of these days Ill get on the hipster train and learn something beside C and python. Don't really feel at home with GO. 15:47 < onryo> yet 15:48 <@molz> lol 15:51 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 15:53 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:01 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 16:31 -!- onryo [~rev@unaffiliated/onryo] has left #lnd ["Leaving"] 16:32 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:34 -!- pepz [~zzzzzzzzz@91.90.44.27] has joined #lnd 16:34 < pepz> testnet has its own blockchain right? 16:34 < pepz> Is it also 170GB-ish? 16:39 < spudowiar> pepz: Q1. Yes 16:39 < spudowiar> pepz: Q2. No 16:39 < spudowiar> ~ ⚡ du -sh .bitcoin/testnet3 16:39 < spudowiar> 13G .bitcoin/testnet3 16:39 < spudowiar> And, yes, that is a Lightning shell prompt :P 16:39 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 16:40 -!- brocktice [~brock@unaffiliated/brocktice] has joined #lnd 16:40 < pepz> spudowiar, partitioning 200GB to a qemu instance for testnet. Guess it is WAY over kill ... 16:40 < brocktice> Hi all, I'm working on getting lnd going on testnet, I'm wondering-- is use of btcd required? Can I use core bitcoind? 16:43 < pepz> brocktice, you can https://gist.github.com/aakselrod/5644b9319041a796ba6ffca28062376e 16:44 < brocktice> pepz: thanks, but should I do it or just go ahead and set up btcd? I was under the impression that it was dangerous to run something other than core bitcoind due to the risk of breaking consensus. 16:45 < brocktice> Obviously for testnet it doesn't matter so much but I'm trying to get a template together to test for a mainnet lnd node in the near future 16:46 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 16:48 < pepz> brocktice, If you feel like running btcd it should be fine. Personally I like bitcoind and use it. 16:53 < brocktice> Ah good to know, thanks! I've already got it set up and synched for testnet. 17:08 -!- pepz [~zzzzzzzzz@91.90.44.27] has left #lnd ["Leaving"] 17:12 <@molz> brocktice, the bitcoind patch needs lnd installed first but it's easy when you follow the guide 17:12 <@molz> you still need to install Go, then install LND, then use the patch 17:13 <@molz> and currently this patch only works on Linux, more progress to come when the holidays are over 17:15 < brocktice> molz: thanks, I was just about to ask because I got this: https://pastebin.com/0qYJRa5E 17:15 < brocktice> probably I need to check out head first and then do that, eh? 17:18 < brocktice> hmm still getting errors after go install 17:19 < brocktice> I guess I have to do the btcwallet part also 17:21 <@molz> are you on ubuntu? 17:22 < brocktice> yep 17:22 < brocktice> that fixed it 17:22 < brocktice> helps if you follow the directions :/ 17:22 <@molz> ya 17:22 < brocktice> I wasn't using btcwallet so I thought it wasn't necessary to do that part 17:23 <@molz> hm maybe i should put togher a quickie for this 17:25 < brocktice> molz: any pointers on a systemd unit file for lnd? 17:27 < brocktice> hm when I run it it's telling me core.active isn't a valid config option 17:29 <@molz> brocktice, do you have ZMQ in your bitcoind? 17:29 <@molz> and make sure you set up bitcoin.conf like in the guide 17:31 < brocktice> I put the two zmqpub options in bitcoin.conf 17:31 < brocktice> As for whether I have zmq in my bitcoind, that I don't know. I have the official binary from them. 17:32 < brocktice> Maybe I should just set up btcd for this... 17:32 <@molz> i'm not sure how to check for that 17:32 < brocktice> Well, bitcoind doesn't bitch about the zmq options in the conf file at least 17:32 <@molz> i compiled bitcoin so i knew when i did it i didn't install the zmq library, so i had to recompile my bitcoind to run for this 17:33 < brocktice> ah 17:33 < brocktice> However, I don't think that's the issue at the moment 17:33 < brocktice> I have the core.active option in my lnd.conf and that's what it's complaining about 17:33 < brocktice> 2017-12-31 18:33:48.682 [WRN] LTND: /home/bitcoind/.lnd/lnd.conf:5: unknown option: core.active 17:33 <@molz> ah i see 17:34 <@molz> this is how i run lnd: lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --core.active --noencryptwallet --debuglevel=trace 17:34 < brocktice> and yet when I do lnd --help it shows up as an option 17:34 < brocktice> thanks let me try that 17:35 < brocktice> molz: that still complains about the conf file option but seems to work? 17:35 < brocktice> it appears to be synching up to the bitcoind backend 17:35 <@molz> well it's working if it syncs :D 17:36 < brocktice> I wonder why it complains about the conf file option 17:36 < brocktice> oh well I can go look at the code later 17:36 <@molz> lnd complains a lot 17:36 < brocktice> I don't know go but that seems like it would be simple enough to figure out 17:36 <@molz> yea i think so 17:37 < brocktice> I have some BTC and I run a small ISP so I'm hoping to get a decent LND mainnet node going in the near future 17:37 <@molz> oh cool 17:37 <@molz> how small is your ISP? 17:37 < brocktice> about 400 customers 17:37 <@molz> wow 17:38 < brocktice> we have 800Mbps upstream on two different fiber lines 17:38 <@molz> what's the lowest price a month? 17:38 < brocktice> $35 17:38 <@molz> no kidding 17:38 < brocktice> 2Mbps with 4Mbps burst 17:38 <@molz> i guess you're local? 17:38 < brocktice> local? I mean... I'm also a customer lol 17:38 < brocktice> I started it so I could have better than 1.5Mbps error prone dsl at my house 17:38 <@molz> you own this ISP, correct? 17:39 < brocktice> yes 17:39 <@molz> is it in the US nationwide? 17:39 < brocktice> Oh, no, just a small service area 17:39 < brocktice> but US yes 17:39 < brocktice> WISP actually 17:39 < brocktice> so limited by our coverage 17:39 <@molz> i see 17:40 < brocktice> But, I've got good infrastructure for running a node I think 17:40 < brocktice> proxmox ve cluster at the core, etc 17:40 < brocktice> and I've been around the block with bitcoin, I hadn't been very involved in the technical side for years 17:40 < brocktice> But I've got a 9 rating from nanotube on the bitcoin-otc web of trust if that means anything to you :) 17:41 < brocktice> I want to help in any way I can to make LND succeed 17:41 <@molz> lnd doesn't take a super computer to run, i've been running a fullnode lnd (not neutrino or app) on my windows laptop for almost a year now 17:41 < brocktice> sure but one wants it to be stable 17:41 <@molz> yea 17:41 <@molz> i also have two nodes on a vps 17:41 <@molz> just to compare 17:41 < brocktice> do you worry about security? You have to have money in a hot wallet, right? 17:42 <@molz> yes 17:42 <@molz> oh i'm not sure if i would run a hot wallet on the vps 17:42 < brocktice> ah gotcha 17:42 <@molz> maybe just to test but not for anything real 17:43 < brocktice> I have a machine with cold boot attack hardening, I was thinking of running it on there for mainnet production 17:45 <@molz> cool.. you're an expert then :) 17:45 < brocktice> sync is done, are messages like this normal? 2017-12-31 18:45:08.756 [ERR] SRVR: unable to connect to 02602e15d2efad3632d78f73e89a2634e37e0c9f39cb5c1409d1dd38ca5e977ac4@45.77.115.33:9735: EOF 17:45 < brocktice> well I'm pretty novice on LND as you can see... 17:45 < brocktice> I'm behind the times :) 17:45 <@molz> i think the main thing is to survive doses and hacks ? 17:47 <@molz> oh.. "unable to connect to 02602e15d2efad3632d7.." probably some old node that's trying to connect to your node 17:48 <@molz> hah that's yalls old node 17:48 <@molz> i think your node remembers that yalls old node and is trying to connect to it but it doesn't exist anymore 17:49 < brocktice> molz: I need to open TCP 9735? 17:49 <@molz> if you want incoming nodes 17:49 < brocktice> for sure 17:49 <@molz> but you don't have to 17:49 < brocktice> thanks 17:51 < brocktice> also this Dec 31 18:51:36 btctestnet lnd[30309]: 2017-12-31 18:51:36.727 [DBG] SRVR: Attempting to bootstrap connectivity with 3 initial peers 17:51 < brocktice> er... 17:51 < brocktice> sorry 17:52 < brocktice> Dec 31 18:51:36 btctestnet lnd[30309]: 2017-12-31 18:51:36.728 [ERR] CMGR: Can't accept connection: chacha20poly1305: message authentication failed 17:52 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-unfrhealheghpbah] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:52 < brocktice> anyway... that wasn't so painful. It seems to work? 17:53 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xqteqzfmktloxcwg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:54 < brocktice> listpeers shows no peers though 17:57 < brocktice> I've got some reading to do I think... 18:00 <@molz> well you have to manually connect to peers if they haven't connected to you 18:00 <@molz> i have a short list of nodes you can connect and open channels with: https://paste.ee/p/VV9QI#eODBKgJ5PLd0E6Pwm4OEJm6vHlySPmmI 18:44 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gsyktscbdfzaoxko] has joined #lnd 19:41 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:48 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:12 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 21:07 -!- aakselrod [~aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has joined #lnd 21:18 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:32 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 21:38 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 21:44 < brocktice> molz: thanks, still getting errors, I think I should try this with btcd first. 21:45 <@molz> brocktice, hm ok, but what kind of errors did you get? 21:47 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:10 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 22:18 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 22:22 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 22:34 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:49 < simlay> Today I found http://zigzag.bitlum.io/ and I'm trying it out now. lnd is hanging on `lncli payinvoice` though. Samething happened with bitrefill and hltc today but not yalls or starblocks. 22:51 < lndbot1> I’ll try clearing out some channels on htlc 22:52 -!- xtrmst [4eaf2981@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.175.41.129] has joined #lnd 22:53 -!- xtrmst [4eaf2981@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.175.41.129] has quit [Client Quit] 22:59 < simlay> I'm gonna have to make `lncli decodepayreq lntb1u1pdynkarpp522hwrspyzrwza2ezjsmqtkvw5v3gacxl6dpjdzq4d072melaa2kqdz80v3xjg36ygunxe3cxgen2v3dx4jrqdedx33njepdv93kgvpdxy6rwdryx33r2efhx43zylgcqzyshs0rwudk8g8c4lyvqd7sgcravx2a0969hgnf3sausxgg5u67xfh4lnyz6tlwne9f95pt4xuntddf35yr5a6pa8nv5geq86he6rzrd4spp7n9xz | jq '.destination,.num_satoshis' | xargs lncli queryroutes` a bash alias. 23:05 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 23:09 -!- jerbil [uid28187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfhceazolaifhqyy] has quit [] 23:10 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:16 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 23:32 < simlay> Is the first node of the hopes in the `lncli queryroutes` always a node I have a channel open with? Because when I query routes to htlc, the first result (which I presume is what's chosen for `lncli payinvoice`), has a hop with a chan_id that's not in my channels list. 23:32 < simlay> But I think that's because I have a channel with chan_id of "0" 23:38 -!- juscamar1 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]