--- Day changed Tue Jan 02 2018 00:00 -!- gbulfon [bec0e813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.192.232.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:05 -!- zubi [4b532fb9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.83.47.185] has joined #lnd 00:15 -!- zubi [4b532fb9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.83.47.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:15 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:16 < Styil> yo what is the approximate locktime predicted for an LN channel? 00:17 < Styil> as in how many blocks will a one sided channel closer be locked 00:18 < Styil> closure* 00:21 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 00:28 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@ip-91.246.66.31.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 00:47 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 00:55 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:57 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqbzkyamxpcsbodn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:57 -!- dinstein [dcc22d82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.194.45.130] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:01 -!- LNTester_ [43b71e7a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.183.30.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:05 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 01:05 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #548: discovery: check proof for nilness before creating chanAnn (master...process-rejected-edge-nil-pointer) https://git.io/vbpBP 01:09 < ysangkok> qxt: https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbook/blob/second_edition/appdx-segwit.asciidoc#pay-to-witness-public-key-hash-inside-pay-to-script-hash 01:10 < ysangkok> that's np2wkh if i am not mistaken 01:14 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:29 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:52 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sbidnfvfffjlyucf] has joined #lnd 01:54 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit 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I assume counterparty risk if I have a multi-hop transaction through the lightning network? 04:37 <@molz> what's the risk? 04:40 < contrapumpkin> I'm just asking whether there is :) I can see that with two parties in a single channel, there's no counterparty risk, but as you add an intermediate node, it seems trickier to achieve an "atomic" move from point A to B through C. It seems like A might trade trustlessly with C, but can A guarantee that C will also pass the trade through to B? I assume so, but I don't know enough to know it :) 04:46 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 04:49 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:52 < brocktice> Yay bought my first virtual coffee with LN, finally :) 04:52 <@molz> contrapumpkin, are you still testing the app? 04:52 <@molz> brocktice, haha congratz :D 04:52 <@molz> i was wondering how you made it out with the btcwallet confusion lol 04:53 < brocktice> This stuff needs to be documented better for general use, I hope to get working on that once I'm unconfused. 04:53 < buZz> awesome brocktice :D 04:54 <@molz> buzzzzzz 04:54 < buZz> moles 04:54 <@molz> :D 04:55 <@molz> brocktice, yea, i think roasbeef expects us to be as smart as he is lol 04:55 <@molz> brocktice, you should've seen me here at the beginning when the testing was opened, i was lost, and i wanted lnd to run on windows lol 04:55 < brocktice> Thanks for the help! 04:56 <@molz> so roasbeef was like "that linux guide should be the same for windows.." lol 04:56 < brocktice> I will probably start again from scratch over the next week and try to do it cleaner 04:56 < brocktice> that sounds... not necessarily correct lol 04:56 <@molz> brocktice, it's very simple, jrick taught me how to do this for windows and then i learned to install everything on linux and i wrote a cheat sheet for myself 04:57 <@molz> so when i install go, btcd, lnd on a new linux environment i just use my cheat sheet and everything is installed really fast 04:59 < brocktice> yes it's not actually that complicated. I should try to go back to bitcoind and see if I can make that work as well 05:01 <@molz> at the beginning btcd didn't have segwit, roasbeef had a PR for btcd to merge segwit but because of lack of review so it wasn't merged into btcd suite, so roasbeef has his own btcd branch and that has been what we use 05:01 < contrapumpkin> molz: yeah, fooling around with it 05:02 <@molz> contrapumpkin, if you see something that needs to be fixed you can create an issue 05:02 < contrapumpkin> anyone know about the trust question? 05:02 < contrapumpkin> yeah I know :) I already created one simple issue 05:02 <@molz> contrapumpkin, ln has no trust 05:03 <@molz> contrapumpkin, one simple hop: if you and I don't have a channel with each other but we each have a channel and enough capacity with Starbucks, we can send payment to each other and it goes thru starbucks, takes two hops 05:04 <@molz> it just means if i want to pay you, i actually pay to starbucks and starbucks pays you 05:04 < contrapumpkin> sure 05:05 < contrapumpkin> I'm just wondering what compels starbucks to pay me after you've paid them 05:05 < contrapumpkin> presumably they sign something that would allow you to enforce it 05:05 <@molz> it instantly goes to your channel fund with starbucks 05:06 -!- cea [~cea@5.10.148.196] has joined #lnd 05:10 -!- Tim [d57f3be9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.127.59.233] has joined #lnd 05:11 < Tim> hey guys 05:11 < Tim> was there a slack as well? 05:11 <@molz> yes but IRC is better 05:14 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 05:14 < cea> testing ln on ubuntu...other than port 18333 for core and 9735 for eclair, any other needed to be open? 05:15 < cea> also how big is the datadir for testnet3 these days ? 05:16 < contrapumpkin> molz: hmm but the channel is between you and starbucks, and I'm not involved in any of the cryptographic guarantees between you and starbucks... I might just have to read a paper about this all :) 05:17 < contrapumpkin> "The nodes along the path are not trusted, as the payment is enforced using a script which enforces the atomicity (either the entire payment succeeds or fails) via decrementing time-locks." 05:19 <@molz> no don't read "a paper", just install go, btcd, lnd and you'll see this firsthand 05:19 <@molz> cea, are you installing desktop Eclair? 05:20 < cea> molz, just ubuntu on AWS 05:21 <@molz> cea and which LN implementation are you planning to test? 05:21 < cea> eclair 05:21 <@molz> oh maybe it's better to ask in #lightning-dev since this channel is more focused on LND 05:21 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 05:22 < contrapumpkin> molz: oh I don't doubt that the implementation does this. I'm trying to understand how it guarantees that this happens 05:22 < contrapumpkin> even in the presence of misbehaving nodes, etc. 05:26 < cea> molz, okay, just looking for a solid guide to getting testnet LN running and then doing some testing with eclair 05:29 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 05:37 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sbidnfvfffjlyucf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:43 < contrapumpkin> molz: okay, I think I get it a bit better now after skimming the paper :) 05:44 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:44 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 05:57 < wxss> contrapumpkin: afaik atomicity between channels is cryptographically enforced through HTLC hashed time lock contracts 06:01 < contrapumpkin> yeah 06:17 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18 -!- ghost43 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I'm not entirely sure. 09:35 < multihoppayments> In the documentation (https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/tree/master/docker) at the bottom it states that Alice->Faucet->Bob 09:35 < multihoppayments> Not Alice->Fauced<-Bob 09:35 < multihoppayments> So I was wondering if Alice->Fauced->Someone completely unknown 09:36 < crisppY> multihoppayments: i think invoices need to be issued beforehand so the last person needs to be known to alice? 09:37 < multihoppayments> So I guess the golden question is if lighting funds can be used on multiple channels. 09:38 < multihoppayments> belcher: Any ideas? 09:39 < AndyS2> the funding tx happens between two participants, on the blockchain. 09:39 -!- tm604 [~tom@pdpc/supporter/professional/tm604] has joined #lnd 09:39 < crisppY> AndyS2: isnt lightning off chain? 09:40 < AndyS2> not entirely, of course 09:40 < crisppY> Well lets say Faucet has a funded channel open with Alice and another with Bob. Can Faucet's funds in one channel be used on another offchain? 09:40 < AndyS2> no 09:41 < AndyS2> not as far as I know 09:41 < multihoppayments> How so? 09:41 -!- testingLN [6171199d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.113.25.157] has joined #lnd 09:42 < AndyS2> they will always remain in that channel until it is closed. however, the funds can be redistributed differently, while requiring no trust for any party, but enabling you to only redistribute the funds in your channel if a certain redistribution happens in another channel. 09:44 < AndyS2> hm, no, I don't like that explanation. it says things that aren't true 09:44 < multihoppayments> So am I correct in assuming that lighting is only good for direct 1 to 1 transactions. Such as when a vendor sells a product of a client purchases a product? 09:44 < AndyS2> no 09:45 < AndyS2> If I am Alice I can pay faucet for paying Bob. 09:45 < AndyS2> but faucet is only paid if Bob accepted Alice's payment 09:45 < AndyS2> (i.e. trustless) 09:46 < crisppY> Ok well lets say Bob is unknown. I am Faucet and I ensure Alice that this unknown, which may come later, will receive their funds. Alice knows the risks and accepts. Can this all be done off chain? 09:47 < AndyS2> You are asking me if you can pay random people that claim they might do something? 09:47 < AndyS2> I don't see how this would ever not be possible ^^ 09:47 < AndyS2> but Alice and Faucet would need a lightning channel, and creation of that channel happens on-chain 09:47 < AndyS2> if it's already there, you don't need an on-chain tx to have a guarantee to have received/sent the money 09:48 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 09:48 < AndyS2> if you want to spend the bitcoin elsewhere/open a different channel, you need another on chain tx 09:48 < crisppY> ok but what about bob, he already has a channel with faucet. does he need to open another channel to receive the funds that faucet received from alice 09:50 < AndyS2> if it's like Alice <---> Faucet <---> Bob, and <---> is a single channel between two parties, Alice can pay Bob via Faucet. One caveat: The channel between Alice and Faucet and the one between Faucet and Bob may not be completely one-sided (into the wrong direction) 09:50 < AndyS2> no new channels are needed. 09:51 < AndyS2> (this is because if I was faucet and had 0 bitcoin on my side of the channel and bob had 2 bitcoin, redistribution could never give bob more bitcoin, only less) 09:51 < crisppY> So no relationship between Alice and Bob? 09:51 < AndyS2> no channel. but obviously alice and bob are talking to each other somehow, just not via blockchain or by creating a channel 09:53 < crisppY> Thanks, appreciate it 09:53 < AndyS2> the details are complicated. bob basically gives alice a hash. if alice knows the preimage to that hash, she is getting paid. faucet gets the preimage to the hash from bob by giving bob bitcoin in their channel. then faucet knows he will get money from alice because they have a lightning tx that will give him money if he has the preimage to the hash 09:53 < multihoppayments> ^^^ 09:54 < AndyS2> but as I said, I'm bad at explaining this. this is why it's trustless, though 09:54 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:54 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:200:64a4:2ad0:6dae:fa1a] has joined #lnd 09:54 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:200:64a4:2ad0:6dae:fa1a] has quit [Changing host] 09:54 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 09:55 -!- multihoppayments [488c4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.140.73.38] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:55 < AndyS2> all transactions only become valid once the receiver got his funds in any channel, and the sender lots an equal amount of funds (+ fees) in one of his own channels 09:55 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-157-2-231.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:56 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-157-2-231.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 09:56 < AndyS2> (all transactions include those hops where alice and bob don't even play a part, such as a channel between faucetX and faucetY, for example) 09:58 -!- JASchilz [~JASchilz@2601:602:9c02:aa0f:3d40:7a31:4d20:8472] has joined #lnd 09:58 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:59 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-157-2-231.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02 -!- JASchilz [~JASchilz@2601:602:9c02:aa0f:3d40:7a31:4d20:8472] has left #lnd ["Leaving"] 10:06 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:12 -!- jbar [c7f62838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.246.40.56] has joined #lnd 10:13 -!- jbar [c7f62838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.246.40.56] has quit [Client Quit] 10:14 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:35 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 10:51 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbhCm 10:51 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 2ddd139 Johan T. Halseth: discovery: check proof for nilness before creating chanAnn... 10:52 < contrapumpkin> so my node has a channel open that I didn't open, presumably because of autopilot 10:52 < contrapumpkin> should I be able to observe transactions passing through my node? 10:52 < contrapumpkin> or do I need to opt into that somehow? 10:56 -!- contrapumpkin is now known as visionofsatoshi 10:56 -!- visionofsatoshi is now known as contrapumpkin 11:00 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rchhprtgtamwoqnz] has joined #lnd 11:13 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 11:20 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 11:21 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:22 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 11:24 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-94-254-224-157.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 11:24 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 11:26 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:26 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@80.233.134.209] has joined #lnd 11:36 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 11:37 <@molz> you can close that channel if you don't want it 11:43 -!- kexkey_ [~kexkey@68.168.115.54] has joined #lnd 11:44 < contrapumpkin> oh no, I do want my node to be as active as possible :) 11:44 < contrapumpkin> I was quite pleased to see it open the channel behind my nack 11:44 < contrapumpkin> but I now want something to use that channel too :P 11:45 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@80.233.134.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:46 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aokkwvdctzwubgkm] has joined #lnd 11:46 -!- kexkey_ is now known as kexkey 11:46 < noonien> hello folks! 11:47 < noonien> what's lnd's status? how can I help test? 12:02 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 12:14 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:18 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 12:20 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #lnd 12:21 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-94-254-224-157.play-internet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:34 -!- aakselrod [~aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:43 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:200:64a4:2ad0:6dae:fa1a] has joined #lnd 12:43 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:200:64a4:2ad0:6dae:fa1a] has quit [Changing host] 12:43 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 12:43 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has joined #lnd 12:43 <@molz> noonien, sure, check out the channel topic 12:46 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:50 -!- Masterboy [~Montvid@78-57-212-189.static.zebra.lt] has joined #lnd 13:00 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 13:03 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:10 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rchhprtgtamwoqnz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:10 -!- drexl [~drexl@82.36.221.190] has joined #lnd 13:29 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 13:30 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 13:31 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 13:47 < Veggen> Hmm. Wondering if I should get a new cheap VPS somewhere... 13:47 -!- Masterboy [~Montvid@78-57-212-189.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:48 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 13:48 < Veggen> for a more permanent test node, and eventually a prod node if I want. 13:52 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:12 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 14:13 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13 -!- eamonnw_ [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has joined #lnd 14:13 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 14:16 < Veggen> So, I have 4 pending_htlcs. Will they ever expire or can I do something with them? 14:21 -!- crisppY [b859fcea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.89.252.234] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:25 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:28 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 14:29 < qxt> I stopped simnet and when I try to start it again I get "2018-01-02 23:26:45.835 [INF] BTCD: Loading block database from '/home/erik/.btcd/data/simnet/blocks_ffldb'" 14:29 < qxt> Then [ERR] BTCD: resource temporarily unavailable: resource temporarily unavailable 14:30 < qxt> and shutsdown. Testwork works fine though 14:30 < qxt> simnet wont start. ./btcd --txindex --simnet --rpcuser=kek --rpcpass=kek 14:31 < qxt> Any ideas what this could be? 14:38 < qxt> found it. was some process in the background that was still alive for some reason. kill -9 it and now works 14:39 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:41 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:43 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:44 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:45 < qxt> sigh so when I unlock the nodes wallet I get -1: Block number out of range 14:47 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-azwvvppkplgddhdy] has joined #lnd 14:50 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:50 < contrapumpkin> do "middleman transactions" show up in the visual transaction list in the app? 14:53 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:53 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:f80a:cadb:106f:4c2b] has joined #lnd 14:53 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:f80a:cadb:106f:4c2b] has quit [Changing host] 14:53 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:54 -!- parco [~parco@72.88.85.49] has joined #lnd 14:54 < parco> howdy folks 14:55 < parco> lnd is written in Go? I probably won't be much help for quite a bit 14:55 < parco> Any app dev needed? 14:57 < contrapumpkin> there's the lightning-app gui 14:57 < parco> contrapumpkin: runs on desktop? 14:57 < contrapumpkin> yeah, I'm running it on my Mac right now 14:57 < contrapumpkin> https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-app 14:58 < contrapumpkin> I'm assuming it's just Electron for the frontend 14:58 < parco> I'm pretty familiar with Flutter, a new cross platform lib from Google. I've created a few libraries, FlutterBlue, being the bluetooth library for it 14:58 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:59 < parco> It's a good move I suppose to use electron, i decided against it for my last project 15:00 < qxt> When I unlock my simnet from the tutorial after a reboot I get "[ERR] SRVR: unable to create to start server: -1: Block number out of range 15:00 < qxt> -1: Block number out of range" 15:01 < qxt> Got three nodes alice bob and charlie. They all give me that now. 15:02 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:03 < qxt> do I need to reindex lnd? Thought that was only btcd 15:03 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:04 < qxt> as in --txindex 15:05 < parco> is the Slack link no longer available? 15:07 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlsmvcowhxxbvbga] has joined #lnd 15:08 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:d430:d042:81a:6e07] has joined #lnd 15:09 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:d430:d042:81a:6e07] has quit [Changing host] 15:09 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 15:09 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 15:13 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:15 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15 -!- testingLN [6171199d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.113.25.157] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:15 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 15:16 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:16 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 15:24 < contrapumpkin> how is the lightning faucet in the topic supposed to work? 15:24 < contrapumpkin> I supposedly have a channel open with it 15:24 < contrapumpkin> but I'm not sure what to do now 15:36 <@molz> i think the faucet is supposed to create a channel with you but it doesn't seem to work 15:38 <@molz> contrapumpkin, i have a short lists of nodes here that you can open channels with and play with them: https://paste.ee/p/pJJ5a#I8LoJL4ss7XCg4PgI46OMAw7pqndXWzr 15:48 -!- ninjahamstah [~ninjahams@unaffiliated/ninjamastah] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 15:48 -!- kjellberg [~kjellberg@2001:bc8:4400:2800::4b29] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 15:49 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:1107:72b5:2c9f:804b] has joined #lnd 15:49 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:1107:72b5:2c9f:804b] has quit [Changing host] 15:49 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 15:50 <@molz> list* 15:59 -!- parco [~parco@72.88.85.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 16:03 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:14 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 16:18 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has joined #lnd 16:18 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has quit [Changing host] 16:18 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 16:23 < qxt> how long does it take for confirmations on simnet? Is there a blockexplorer? 16:23 -!- drexl [~drexl@82.36.221.190] has quit [Quit: drexl] 16:23 < qxt> Thought it was just a simulation abut it says waiting for confirmations 16:25 <@molz> contrapumpkin, i have an updated list, pls scratch off that last link 16:25 <@molz> https://paste.ee/p/tV5Q9#vdboeIFdBecRVODWFQ1a38XJfrCGVntb 16:26 <@molz> qxt, simnet is your own little testnet that nobody else knows about so no, there's no explorer for it, you need to mine your blocks 16:27 < qxt> btcctl --simnet --rpcuser=kek --rpcpass=kek generate 1 16:27 < qxt> seemed to work 16:28 < qxt> molz, simnet is really awesome. Wish bitcoind had it working. Using btcd just for this 16:29 <@molz> bitcoind can work with lnd on linux now 16:29 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:29 <@molz> on testnet 16:29 < qxt> yeah on testnet. Are all the other cmds the same? 16:30 <@molz> cmds for lnd are the same with bitcoind, yes 16:30 <@molz> except when you run lnd you have to add "--core.active" to point it to bitcoind 16:31 < qxt> would expect that. To be honest I have been really iffy about side chains. Been using core since 2012. Now I see them as a revolution in what can be down. 16:32 < qxt> done^ So much possibilities and spin offs that I can think about 16:32 -!- wxss [~user@185.143.230.232] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:34 < qxt> Are people putting these things on mainnet yet? I know they are still alfa/beta but still are they? 16:42 < lndbot1> yes, but better to test on testnet, not a good idea to have on mainnet yet 16:42 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has joined #lnd 16:42 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has quit [Changing host] 16:42 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 16:48 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:48 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:6943:1384:a2a0:733] has joined #lnd 16:48 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:6943:1384:a2a0:733] has quit [Changing host] 16:48 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 16:55 -!- [satoshivision] [~satoshivi@172.86.120.144] has joined #lnd 16:59 -!- rfree_irc [~rfree_irc@172.86.120.144] has joined #lnd 17:00 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:1e:1b3c:f6ad:faa0] has joined #lnd 17:00 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:1e:1b3c:f6ad:faa0] has quit [Changing host] 17:00 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 17:03 -!- Kryzik [~Kryz@2603:301b:2605:4a00:c4d3:bd6c:7c16:7e72] has joined #lnd 17:03 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:05 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:08 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has joined #lnd 17:10 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has quit [Changing host] 17:10 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 17:11 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:683b:eb62:7b74:d7b8] has joined #lnd 17:11 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:683b:eb62:7b74:d7b8] has quit [Changing host] 17:11 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 17:12 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 17:15 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:16 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlsmvcowhxxbvbga] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:23 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:26 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 17:39 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aokkwvdctzwubgkm] has left #lnd [] 17:49 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:51 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 17:53 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has joined #lnd 17:53 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has quit [Changing host] 17:53 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 17:59 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:05 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 18:21 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 18:21 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:21 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:26 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 18:39 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:40 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 18:42 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has joined #lnd 18:42 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has quit [Changing host] 18:42 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 18:48 < qxt> I am trying to set up the "GUI" in section 2 of the tutorial. I have installed nodejs v9.3.0 and npm 5.5.1. When I start it I get 18:48 < qxt> node server --lndhost=localhost:10001 18:48 < qxt> fs.js:663 18:48 < qxt> return binding.open(pathModule.toNamespacedPath(path), 18:48 < qxt> using Debian GNU/Linux 18:49 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:49 < qxt> Any clue what this is caused by? 18:53 < qxt> guessing this is a path issue but not sure where 19:04 -!- Kryzik [~Kryz@2603:301b:2605:4a00:c4d3:bd6c:7c16:7e72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 19:04 -!- Kryzik [~Kryz@2603:301b:2605:4a00:c4d3:bd6c:7c16:7e72] has joined #lnd 19:06 -!- parco [~paul@pool-72-88-85-49.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 19:09 < parco> sorry, i've been in and out all day, I'll ask again: 19:09 < parco> is there a need for any mobile app development for LN? 19:09 < qxt> got it sorted was some fuckery with the certs 19:12 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:a8eb:ee4c:b5ab:6f37] has joined #lnd 19:12 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:a8eb:ee4c:b5ab:6f37] has quit [Changing host] 19:12 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 19:13 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:16 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 19:17 -!- JackH [~laptop@host-80-43-143-177.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:18 <@molz> parco yes 19:19 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has joined #lnd 19:19 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has quit [Changing host] 19:19 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 19:19 <@molz> parco, Eclair has a nice android mobile app but afaik there's not a LN app for iPhone 19:20 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:20 < parco> molz: I'm thinking a nice Dart lib to implement the protocol, then use Flutter on top for a single codebase between Android/iOS and eventually desktop 19:21 < parco> molz: does that sound useful? 19:21 <@molz> sure 19:31 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 19:35 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has joined #lnd 19:35 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@185.66.194.29] has quit [Changing host] 19:35 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 19:38 < parco> not to sound like a jerk, but I'd like more stake in the game before working on this. Any bounties set up anywhere for such a project? 19:39 < parco> My 0.3 BTC aren't giving me much motivation, as you can imagine 19:40 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:41 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:47 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:d0d6:5c9c:2432:1a62] has joined #lnd 19:47 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@2a03:2260:3009:400:d0d6:5c9c:2432:1a62] has quit [Changing host] 19:47 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 19:47 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:47 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 19:52 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:54 <@molz> parco, hm i don't know of any bounty 19:54 < parco> molz: that's unfortunate 19:55 -!- Guest84734 [~camarena@47.148.173.164] has joined #lnd 19:56 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has 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