--- Day changed Mon Jan 08 2018 00:08 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 00:15 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 00:17 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-94-254-144-6.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 00:17 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 00:28 -!- anome [~anome@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has joined #lnd 00:28 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mzsbrohjcshchmvt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:33 -!- anome [~anome@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has quit [Changing host] 00:33 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 00:40 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 00:41 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 00:41 < anome> i've been dreaming of lightning the whole night 00:41 < anome> getting in to another one of those obsessive phases 00:44 < anome> i think it might be beneficiary to separate daemon and interfaces even in production ready applications, is that the plan? then a user can have multiple apps for different purposes running on a single daemon using separate rpc credentials 00:44 -!- alevchuk [45b5f9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.181.249.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:46 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51 < anome> i'm working on a browser extension lightning wallet to streamline certain usage patterns for paywalls etc. it needs to be in the browser so i can't run lnd/btcd inside it, it must be run seperately. i think many other developers will run in to similar troubles. 00:52 < anome> therefore, it makes sense for every user to run lnd in the background on their computer and have frontend applications hook into that, right? i mean, that's how it works at the moment 00:54 < anome> i think such a front/backend model can be wrapped up in a way that is still user friendly 00:55 -!- mike_ [43a46c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.164.108.28] has joined #lnd 00:56 -!- mike_ is now known as Guest5270 00:57 -!- Guest5270 [43a46c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.164.108.28] has quit [Client Quit] 00:58 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 01:16 -!- JackH [~laptop@91.189.61.70] has joined #lnd 01:28 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 01:30 -!- Guest46371 [5631f501@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.49.245.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:33 -!- birgersp [9e268d75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.38.141.117] has joined #lnd 01:40 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 01:42 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-94-254-144-6.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:42 -!- josephpoon_ [~josephpoo@205.185.122.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:48 -!- Noukolaustica [d106ec36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.6.236.54] has joined #lnd 01:51 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 01:56 -!- josephpoon [~josephpoo@205.185.122.187] has joined #lnd 01:56 -!- mode/#lnd [+o josephpoon] by ChanServ 02:00 -!- Noukolaustica [d106ec36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.6.236.54] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:02 -!- birgersp [9e268d75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.38.141.117] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:07 -!- creslin_ [~textual@5.32.134.14] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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The transaction actually timed out. I went to the movies, and then beer, and forgot all about it. Checked it in the morning, and then the transaction had timed out :) 06:10 < lightningbot4> yeah, most likely 06:14 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 06:16 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@gw.plastoform.si] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:17 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 06:19 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 06:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 06:30 < haarts> quit 06:30 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:31 < haarts> / 06:31 -!- haarts [~haarts@dev.mindshards.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 06:33 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 06:35 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:7d68:3b37:8031:6705] has joined #lnd 06:35 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 06:37 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 06:39 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:44 -!- sdfgsdf [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 06:54 -!- richard87_ [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 06:56 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:56 -!- richard87_ is now known as richard87 06:57 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:01 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:03 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 07:27 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 07:32 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 07:36 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:38 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:41 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:42 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 07:48 -!- creslin [~textual@5.32.134.14] has joined #lnd 07:51 -!- creslin_ [~textual@85.118.80.162] has joined #lnd 07:53 -!- wxss [~user@78.129.181.190] has joined #lnd 07:53 -!- RusAlex_ [~Chel@89-212-19-164.static.t-2.net] has joined #lnd 07:55 -!- creslin [~textual@5.32.134.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:56 -!- RusAlex [~Chel@unaffiliated/rusalex] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:59 < anome> hey molz i missed your reply hours ago, still there? 08:00 <@molz> t 08:00 <@molz> y 08:00 < anome> cool 08:03 < anome> my question was if it might be a good idea to distinguish between daemon and interface in user-ready apps as well 08:04 <@molz> yalls has a new node key, if you guys still have channels with yalls old key, you need to close out those channels 08:05 <@molz> anome, that i have no clue, you might want to ask experts like roasbeef 08:05 < anome> i think the initial impulse is to bundle the daemon and interface into a stand-alone app, but this limits the use cases. If the daemon is run in the background it is possible for more experimentation with regards to interface and user experience - communicating with a browser for example 08:06 < anome> yeah, i just threw the question out there := 08:06 < anome> :) 08:11 < anome> i guess another way to hook into the web user experience is just with payment request uris 08:12 < anome> but it would be cool if we could just click a button inside a webpage to make a microtransaction, instead of having to switch to our wallet and click ok 08:14 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:15 < Veggen> there's not really any reason not to use browser extensions for lightning payments. 08:16 < anome> Veggen i think there are quite a few compelling use cases 08:17 < anome> such as one-click microtransactions that are integrated into the user experience of a particular web app 08:17 < Veggen> I think it'll happen. And it would be quite easy to do. 08:18 < anome> the problem is you need to run a node. i guess you could run bcoin in a browser extension, but there's still no lightning node for bcoin 08:18 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:19 < Veggen> anome: there's lightweight LN implementation today. 08:19 < anome> for bcoin? 08:19 < Veggen> bitcoin? 08:19 < Veggen> yah. eclair for android is pretty lightweight. 08:20 < anome> nah, for the javascript bitcoin node that chjj is working on 08:20 < Veggen> oh, ok :) 08:20 < lndbot1> anome it is possible to do automatic microtransactions. See e.g. https://twitter.com/alexbosworth/status/929937928519761921 08:20 < anome> yes, but it cannot be run inside a browser extension. it has to be javascript 08:21 < anome> lndbot1 that's actually not so bad 08:27 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #572: Fix announcements flakes (master...fix-flake-announcements) https://git.io/vNLcF 08:28 -!- JackH [~laptop@91.189.61.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:29 -!- crimnak [c2412547@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.65.37.71] has joined #lnd 08:31 < anome> it clicked for me now, thanks 08:31 < anome> i can just make a native app in electron 08:31 < anome> perfect 08:39 -!- theone [~theone@c-24-5-154-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:44 -!- theone [~theone@c-24-5-154-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:45 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:50 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:59 -!- RusAlex_ [~Chel@89-212-19-164.static.t-2.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 09:00 -!- RusAlex [~Chel@unaffiliated/rusalex] has joined #lnd 09:00 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:03 -!- jerbil [uid28187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkuamyhsstczjceh] has joined #lnd 09:04 < RusAlex> Hi tech mates. Im trying to catch the lightning idea. 09:06 < RusAlex> How regular person will run a payment channel if he wants only to make a micropayment and then close the channel. because he might not even back to the same merchant in near future 09:06 < RusAlex> will there be an 3rd "person" with who both merchant and me will keep opened payment channel ? 09:06 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 09:07 < RusAlex> so I wont need to close it after I pay for my coffee. 09:07 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 09:07 < RusAlex> because next merchant where I will go to "pizzeria" also has opened channel for this 3rd "person" and I will use my existing payment channel 09:08 < RusAlex> it's like today I can use localbitcoins for instant zero fee payments to another localbitcoins client 09:09 < RusAlex> but lightning must replace localbitcoins in example with a 3rd part which I do not trust and do not need to trust to use. 09:19 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 09:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:24 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:26 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 09:38 -!- creslin_ [~textual@85.118.80.162] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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You can open a channel with any node(s) on the network 09:52 < bonks> If one of those nodes have a path to say, starblocks, you can make a payment through multiple hops 09:52 < bonks> You don't have to have a channel to starblocks 09:52 < bonks> You can have a single channel to a node you consider your "main" channel to everything else 09:54 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:56 -!- theone [~theone@c-24-5-154-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:59 < bonks> Now that I think about it, starblocks website doesnt have any information to their channel. Great example of your use case 09:59 < bonks> lncast.com does provide both invoice and node info 10:01 <@molz> guys, i have an updated list of LN nodes here for you to open channels and play with: https://paste.ee/p/Cl0Tn#dP2TZcE4aMqke3WW7ttyqfTNTCPHHfTA 10:03 <@molz> argh .. got one typo on the list "Ghanavati LN practice"* 10:05 < bonks> molz: I was looking for a list of fun sites! This should be easier to find.. 10:05 <@molz> yea 10:05 <@molz> and i will keep adding when there's more 10:06 < bonks> Wait, are some on mainnet? 10:09 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 10:09 < bonks> Nevermind, bitrefill looks like the real deal but worked with my test coins 10:13 < Sentineo> guys FYI on https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md in the 'Running lnd in light client mode' please add port 9735 to the guide. My lnd (version 0.3.0-alpha 10:13 < lndbot1> there's a mainnet version, but that's private, not ready for prime time yet :P 10:13 < Sentineo> does not start without specifying the port 10:14 < Sentineo> roasbeef: ^ 10:16 < Sentineo> I mean for the --neutrino.connect=faucet.lightning.community 10:17 <@roasbeef> it assumes default 10:17 < Sentineo> it errored out running 10:18 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 10:18 < Sentineo> with: unable to create neutrino: address faucet.lightning.community: missing port in address 10:18 < Sentineo> if I add the port all is fine 10:19 < Sentineo> tried with the cli option, and same behavior when in the config file. Once I add the port lnd starts 10:20 < Sentineo> using https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/releases/download/v0.3-alpha/lnd-linux-arm64-v0.3-alpha.tar.gz 10:22 <@roasbeef> that's old 10:22 <@roasbeef> use master 10:23 < RusAlex> bonks: sorry for delay. but this is ok. and starblocks must have path on the exact node. will nodes share pathes ? If my node does not have this path it will relay me to another node where this path exist transparently ? 10:24 < bonks> RusAlex: There can be multiple hops to get to starblocks -- no direct channnel is necessary. I don't understanding the routing, but the client will calculate the best path 10:25 < bonks> See the queryroutes command 10:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:26 < bonks> https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/43687/how-are-paths-found-in-lightning-network 10:30 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:32 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.63.133] has joined #lnd 10:40 < RusAlex> thats great 10:42 < Sentineo> roasbeef: which port is the default? Do I read 9735 correctly? Getting RST from the server back. tcptracerouting that port fails for me, it is closed. I am sure I am doing something wrong, but can't figure out what :) 10:48 < Veggen> how roasbeef: Any clues about the routing loop problem bug? 10:48 <@roasbeef> yes, have a fix 10:48 < Veggen> hmmf. Probably destroyed my debug-environment now. opened a larger channel to endurance :) 10:49 < Veggen> oh well. I'll easily just pay out somewhere so that it's too small again. 10:50 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:50 < Veggen> I was tired of having too small outgoing channel, everytime deny routing :P 10:54 <@roasbeef> channel from endurance to startblocks was unbalanced the otehr day, so nothing go through btw 10:57 -!- SevenTimes [~SevenTime@c-73-162-115-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06 < cjd[m]1> oh cool, testnet channels ? 11:38 < lndbot1> anome my fastpay demo doesn’t use JS, that is native code 11:50 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 11:52 -!- IniGit [~Gernot@62-178-56-62.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #lnd 11:56 < Veggen> roasbeef: is it more worth it, test-wise, to ditch bitcoind and move to btcd again, to run the most current code? (*hate* not applying fixes :)) 11:57 < Veggen> ..or will the alex patch merge soonish? 11:57 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 11:59 <@roasbeef> will be merged soonish, just some final stuff about how to handle the config options properly 12:00 < bonks> Cool! I just saw the news about TorGuard accepting LN payments on mainnet 12:01 < Veggen> bonks: bit mixed feelings. Successful, it would be good. But if it's too early, it'll be bad :) 12:02 < Veggen> (even if they say they'll cover your coin loss) 12:02 < Veggen> roasbeed: ok, will hold off then :) 12:17 -!- BladeMcCool [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #lnd 12:19 < BladeMcCool> i've created address with newaddress but didnt write it down. now i want to mine 100 blocks for charlie but i can't seem to find the address i made for him. any way to list them with lncli? 12:19 < BladeMcCool> i suspect i can just create more and write it down but would love to know more on how to list them or maybe delete extra ones that wont be needed 12:20 < Veggen> addresses are never actually created. 12:20 < Veggen> they always actually exist. 12:21 < Veggen> so the concept of deleting them makes no sense :) 12:22 < Veggen> Hmm. Someone should create "I want a new channel, tell me the optimal node to connect to"-calculator. 12:22 < Veggen> it 12:22 < Veggen> 's not an easy problem, I guess :) 12:22 < BladeMcCool> ok, so it sounds like it doesnt matter, if i didnt write down the value returned by newaddress for charlie the first time, and now i want to run btcd with --miningadd= i can just go ahead and run newaddress again and not worry about clutting any files up with records of unused forgotten addresses. 12:30 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has joined #lnd 12:48 < Veggen> BladeMcCool: correct :) 12:49 -!- omri [b912cd36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.18.205.54] has joined #lnd 12:50 < lightningbot4> Veggen: the bitcoind patch will probably be merged in the next few days 13:08 -!- omri [b912cd36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.18.205.54] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:11 -!- poordad [473c1735@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.60.23.53] has joined #lnd 13:11 < poordad> hello 13:12 < Veggen> hello poordad. 13:12 < poordad> could someone help me with go and installing the lnd 13:12 < poordad> i am not a coder by any means but a quick learner and want to contribute to the testnet anyway i can 13:12 < Veggen> possibly. What OS are you on? 13:13 < poordad> i realize this may come across as someone requesting the most remedial of educations 13:13 < poordad> im running a 64 bit windows system 13:13 < Veggen> mmm, I guess most guides are for Linux? 13:13 < poordad> i believe so 13:14 < poordad> but the go program appears to support a windows version 13:14 < Veggen> https://medium.com/@jadmubaslat/bitcoin-lightning-network-node-easy-setup-tutorial-for-windows-desktop-users-a-how-to-guide-9937b5a8a669 13:14 < Veggen> does that one help you a bit? 13:15 < poordad> ill spend some time looking through it 13:15 < poordad> thank you 13:15 < poordad> if i have questions, will i be able to reach you here? 13:15 < Veggen> I don't actually know much about it, myself. I'm a Linux user :) 13:15 < Veggen> but sure, there's likely people here running it on windows. 13:16 < poordad> thank you for your help! 13:16 < Veggen> you're welcome. 13:21 < bonks> Where can I view the remaining blocks for a pendingchannel to close? 13:22 < Veggen> lncli pendingchannels 13:22 < Veggen> I believe a cooperative close is just 1 block, no? 13:22 < bonks> This is uncooperative 13:22 < bonks> It's been over 24h 13:22 < Veggen> check what pendingchannels tells you. 13:22 < bonks> It doesnt have any info 13:23 <@roasbeef> look up the txid in your node 13:23 <@roasbeef> also you need to be running with --txindex active 13:27 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 13:29 < Veggen> with a well connected mesh core network, would it be plausible that you'd almost never need to settle? 13:29 < Veggen> things will have so many ways to refill channels, etc? 13:30 < Veggen> ...and yes, I know that ideally every node will be a routing node :) 13:32 < poordad> interesting point, i would think when large transactions are made there would be a demand for them to be done on chain for various reasons 13:32 < Veggen> sure, large transactions make sense on chain. 13:32 < Veggen> might. 13:33 < poordad> im embarassingly deficient in the coding aspects, but discussing the economics of the future of this space is what makes me tick :)\ 13:33 < Veggen> I'd still think a trader that regularly traded on multiple exchanges would benefit a lot from having large channels directly with exchanges. 13:33 < poordad> oh absolutely 13:35 < Veggen> hmmf. My closing tx has too low fee ? how can I see the testnet mempool? 13:35 < poordad> ive been trying to figure out what points of control will remain as far as taxation goes, if people and businesses can use the currency ubiquitously, the only places i can think where taxation and government involvement would still be necessary is in the transfer of real estate or vehicles 13:37 < Veggen> uhm. I guess businesses selling in BTC have the same requirement for taking value added tax, etc? 13:38 <@molz> poordad, did you get go installed on your windows? 13:40 < poordad> its installed, i can open command prompt through bin folder and then run application "gofmt" 13:40 < poordad> after that im not sure what im doing 13:42 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 13:46 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 14:00 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:02 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:06 <@molz> poordad ok create a work space 14:07 <@molz> you can create it in C:\ directory or C:\Users\username directory or where you like 14:07 <@molz> and give it a name 14:08 <@molz> like "Projects" or something 14:08 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 14:09 < poordad> right i was following that info from here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCsL89YtqCs but when i press enter nothing special happens, his looks like its executing, mine just moves to the next line as if im typing into notepad 14:11 -!- Erik_ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has joined #lnd 14:11 < Erik_> hi 14:12 <@molz> poordad, well for me i name that folder "work" and then you go to that directory and create 3 folders: bin, pkg, src 14:15 < poordad> i think it may be something seemingly very simple that i am not understanding 14:16 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 14:16 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19 <@molz> poordad, when you install Go it automatically set the GOROOT in the system environment for you but after you create a directory for your Projects you need to set the GOPATH for it in the system variables environment 14:20 < poordad> im concerned im biting off more than i can chew with my approach here, where would you direct someone with no coding background? 14:21 <@molz> this is a very good guide for this, not hard at all: http://www.wadewegner.com/2014/12/easy-go-programming-setup-for-windows/ 14:22 < poordad> thank you! i will return with questions when i have learned enough to know what i do not know lol 14:22 < Veggen> that's the correct approach :) 14:24 <@molz> poordad, don't give up now.. don't make these lunix geeks think we windows users are hopeless... lol 14:25 -!- wxss [~user@78.129.181.190] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:25 < Veggen> actually, I find windows hard and difficult. 14:25 < poordad> haha, ill do my best to represent well. bear in mind im young, broke, and working with a ~5 year old laptop 14:26 <@molz> poordad, yea read that blog, and try it on your windows, it won't break anything at all 14:27 < poordad> appreciate the help thus far! 14:27 <@molz> Veggen, oh man... i got help to learn how to install this stuff on windows in this channel a year ago.. it was jrick that helped me, while grubbles told me to give it up and intall lnd on ubuntu 14:28 <@molz> i tried on ubuntu at first, didn't work for me so i determined to make it work on windows and it did, then i learned to do it on ubuntu 14:29 < Veggen> :) 14:29 < Veggen> I've been a Unix/Linux guy since earlie 90's. Will never be a Windows-expert :) 14:32 <@molz> lol 14:32 -!- Erik_ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:39 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:39 < Veggen> well, night. 14:40 -!- Erik_ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has joined #lnd 14:40 -!- Erik_ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has quit [Client Quit] 14:42 -!- Erik_ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has joined #lnd 14:43 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has joined #lnd 15:10 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:15 -!- Buttsaab [417fd28a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.127.210.138] has joined #lnd 15:18 < bonks> roasbeef: Should I be able to find the closing txid on https://live.blockcypher.com/ ? Because it says not found 15:18 <@molz> bonks, what's the TXID? 15:19 < bonks> da09a972fdbb15a59d104c9871513023af6c67b8729398414c88b6b9cb876b6d 15:20 <@molz> bonks, do you have the opening txid and the node key of this channel? 15:21 <@molz> i'm looking for "channel_point" 15:32 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 15:33 -!- Buttsaab [417fd28a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.127.210.138] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:36 < bonks> molz: "0489cf9874d34f13254497cb3a4b292bcf61efb97f9e870a9b78214157621197 15:40 <@molz> bonks, that channel has already been closed by this tx: https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/637e6e224aa514430e81c9ddb1cf7e02d1010619a760ecc1e4f3dc9496beed84 15:59 < bonks> molz: It still appears in my pending channels 15:59 <@molz> bonks, restart your lnd node to see if it's still there? 16:07 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uqpwbwklayjqxwgb] has joined #lnd 16:13 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 16:26 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has quit [Quit: we out here] 16:44 -!- Gooms [51ffd339@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.255.211.57] has joined #lnd 16:46 -!- jerbil [uid28187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkuamyhsstczjceh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:46 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:59 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.63.133] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.63.133] has joined #lnd 17:06 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@153.142.228.110] has joined #lnd 17:55 < bonks> molz: I restarted lnd. I then restarted btcd then lnd. Pending channel still there 17:56 < bonks> ./lncli disconnect "03ef1a14c1d33d820bc34c59bc4082cf8fc4b3eec6002efb1d6a4f37a2506fae4f" 17:56 < bonks> [lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = cannot disconnect from peer(03ef1a14c1d33d820bc34c59bc4082cf8fc4b3eec6002efb1d6a4f37a2506fae4f), all active channels with the peer need to be closed first 18:02 -!- ajunas [adefe89e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.158] has joined #lnd 18:02 -!- Erik_ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:03 < ajunas> can u gRPC straight to an LND node from javascript in the browsers? 18:03 -!- Gooms [51ffd339@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.255.211.57] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:09 < lndbot1> I’m no expert but I don’t see why not. But also I don’t think you can guarantee that a user would have a LND node running… 18:10 < lndbot1> Oh you mean gRPC to your server’s LND node. I suppose you could. 18:12 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] cfromknecht closed pull request #562: support uri in getinfo response (master...getinfo-uri) https://git.io/vNJ4T 18:12 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has joined #lnd 18:17 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:7d68:3b37:8031:6705] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:18 < ajunas> im a RPC noob and just cannot find a simple way to RPC connect to lnd, its all stuff im unfamiliar with :( 18:20 < lndbot1> ajunas: http://dev.lightning.community/guides/javascript-grpc/ 18:21 < ajunas> lndbot1: thanks, ive seen that. I've yet to learn node.js, perhaps this is a good time to learn, but the other issue is that im way more savvy with apache/php and apaprently node.js and apache dont mix 18:23 < lndbot1> how about: https://grpc.io/docs/tutorials/basic/php.html 18:23 < ajunas> lndbot1: yeah ive been trying to get that to work 18:23 < ajunas> that somehow uses node anyway though lol 18:25 < ajunas> oh wait 18:25 <@molz> ajunas, would you want to try to install mably's web client and play with it? https://github.com/mably/lncli-web 18:25 < ajunas> this looks different 18:25 < lndbot1> Oh yeah it uses the node server. I think you should only be concerned with the client for LND though. LND implements the server side 18:26 < ajunas> right 18:27 <@molz> here's what mably's web client looks like: https://lnd-testnet-1.mably.com/ 18:27 <@molz> user: lnd, password: rocks 18:28 < ajunas> molz: sweet thanks 18:34 < bonks> Any way to 'rescan' what populates the pendingchannels? 18:49 <@molz> bonks, you can submit an issue on github 18:50 < bonks> I don't know how to recreate. I just openchannel again and it is now in both pending open and pending closing 18:50 < bonks> I will try to close and see what happens 18:51 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52 <@molz> i think roasbeef knows this issue, i've seen "ghost" pending channels in closing but actually the txs have been confirmed and gone.. 19:01 -!- tdhhqq [d3fd1ae9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.211.253.26.233] has joined #lnd 19:01 < tdhhqq> help 19:02 -!- tdhhqq [d3fd1ae9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.211.253.26.233] has quit [Client Quit] 19:02 -!- coolJames [495b1923@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.91.25.35] has joined #lnd 19:03 -!- coolJames [495b1923@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.91.25.35] has left #lnd [] 19:16 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:18 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 19:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 19:29 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has joined #lnd 19:32 < bonks> What are reasons to open multiple channels with the same node? 19:49 < subz> hmmm i guess there wouldn't be 19:50 < subz> although could you have a channel open with BTC and a channel open with LTC? 19:52 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 19:54 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 15 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNt09 19:54 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master f50b911 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: lnd: if using btcd backend, ensure that --txindex is active... 19:54 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master fa6354b Olaoluwa Osuntokun: lnrpc: remove blocks_till_open field from PendingChannelsResponse... 19:54 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 95de109 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: lnwallet: return our final local balance from CompleteCooperativeClose... 19:55 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:55 -!- pera [~pera@unaffiliated/pera] has joined #lnd 20:01 <@roasbeef> updating faucet 20:01 <@roasbeef> bonks: you may want to use one channel for aparticualr use case 20:01 <@roasbeef> also rn since splicing in isn't yet implemented, opening another channel is a way to add additional payment bandwidth 20:04 < bonks> roasbeef: Thanks. Any tips on how to rid ghost closing channels? 20:07 < subz> how do you mean ghost closing? 20:07 -!- IniGit [~Gernot@62-178-56-62.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08 < bonks> My pendingchannels has a channel in pending_closing_channels which has been completed 20:09 < bonks> closed in https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/637e6e224aa514430e81c9ddb1cf7e02d1010619a760ecc1e4f3dc9496beed84 20:10 < bonks> subz: closing_txid "da09a972fdbb15a59d104c9871513023af6c67b8729398414c88b6b9cb876b6d" 20:13 -!- subz [c4340203@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.2.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:21 < ajunas> roasbeef: how does splicing work? 20:22 -!- subz [c4340218@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.2.24] has joined #lnd 20:26 <@molz> ok guys, we need to update LND, before you update, close out all your channels first 20:27 < ajunas> why do channels need to be closed in order to update? 20:28 < subz> maybe giving you a chance to redeem satoshis, otherwise lost due to update? 20:28 * subz shrugs 20:31 < bonks> Just get more from the faucet :P 20:31 <@roasbeef> there wasn't a breaking change in this last update 20:31 <@roasbeef> well if you were already on master, you can upgrade to this w/o any issues 20:32 <@roasbeef> you'd only need to close out chans if there was some breaking db change that occured 20:32 <@roasbeef> this was just a series of bug fixes 20:32 < subz> ah 20:33 < lndbot1> or supposedly if your db entered an invalid state bc of a prior bug 20:33 < bonks> Ah I updated to master without any issues 20:33 <@molz> roasbeef we keep seeing ghost closing txs, is that a bug? 20:34 -!- pera [~pera@unaffiliated/pera] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:50 < ajunas> um, does running a node constitute being a money transmitter.... ? 20:51 <@roasbeef> nah 20:51 <@roasbeef> molz: dunno what you mean by that 20:57 < ajunas> "businesses that accept Bitcoin from one person and send it to another (or back to the same person) are money transmitters, and are not exempt from money transmission regulation simply because they do not deal in fiat currency." 20:57 < ajunas> "No activity threshold applies to the definition of money transmitter. Thus, a person who engages as a business in the transfer of funds is an MSB as a money transmitter, regardless of the amount of money transmission activity." 20:58 < bonks> Define business.. 20:58 -!- IniGit [~Gernot@62.178.56.62] has joined #lnd 21:00 < ajunas> sry i meant to include sources, first quote: https://coincenter.org/entry/what-is-money-transmission-and-why-does-it-matter 21:00 < ajunas> 2nd quote: https://www.fincen.gov/money-services-business-definition 21:02 < ajunas> idk, any node which collects fees could be considered a business, and their definitions say there is no amount threshold, so even a few satoshis counts 21:05 < ajunas> :( 21:05 < lndbot1> IANAL but I can’t see any way that a node itself would be a business... 21:09 < ajunas> yeah 21:09 < ajunas> but since they state there is NO activity threshold it kinda indicates they dont really care if its considered a business or not 21:09 < ajunas> lol oh boy 21:10 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 21:11 -!- pera [~pera@unaffiliated/pera] has joined #lnd 21:13 < lndbot1> I still don’t think it’s going to be an issue but I for one would run a node over TOR if need be. 21:15 < ajunas> perhaps not in general it would be an issue, but this could require large / high bandwhich nodes to follow money transmitter regulations 21:16 < Styil> yo, who can I open an LND node with? 21:17 < lndbot1> If you’re right that sounds like an incentive for less centralization. Win-win 21:17 < bonks> Styil: Anyone! 21:17 -!- naribia [adefe89e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.158] has joined #lnd 21:17 < Styil> I can just choose a random node and see if it opens? 21:17 < ajunas> djseeds: yeah indeed 21:17 < Styil> spicy 21:17 < bonks> Styil: Yea 21:18 < naribia> Styil: u can try my testnet node: skyrus.net 21:26 < naribia> is it normal for LND to only allow 1 pending channel at a time? 21:26 < bonks> I've had multiples 21:26 < Styil> makes sense assuming your wallet only has one input 21:27 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28 < naribia> Styil: hm, whys that? 21:35 < lndbot1> naribia, lnd currently only allows one pending channel at a time https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/config.go#L40 21:37 < lndbot1> see —maxpendingchannels 21:38 < naribia> aaah 21:38 -!- poordad [473c1735@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.60.23.53] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:39 <@roasbeef> ajunas: https://coincenter.org/entry/making-sense-of-lightning-network-nodes-and-money-transmission-licensing 21:40 < ajunas> roasbeef: ooh thanks!! 21:40 < lightningbot4> Styil, you can open a channel with any of your online peers, you can try connecting to anyone using lncli connect 21:44 < ajunas> roasbeef: that does seem to be speculation and still up to each jurisdiction, but hopefully the non-custodial role nodes play will help it not be a problem 22:00 < naribia> yeah my node allows multiple pending channels now, sweet 22:41 -!- pera [~pera@unaffiliated/pera] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:43 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] wilmerpaulino opened pull request #573: invoice: refactor parsing data tagged fields and add unit tests (master...parse-data-fields) https://git.io/vNtaQ 22:50 -!- subz [c4340218@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.2.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:47 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 23:49 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:49 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lnd 23:58 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@gw.plastoform.si] has joined #lnd